woven CCC

[leibermuster]

Does anyone have photos or information about the woven variations of the close combat clasp? I have never heard of or seen one before this weekend, and would like to learn more about them.
Thanks! Jason

[Chris D.]

pretty sure these are fantasy items

[Justin P]

pretty sure these are fantasy items

Spot on

[WARLORD]

Embriodered cloth examples are of the extreem rarity.

[leib1]

They weren't autherized and there is no photographic evidence of them.So would say there another fantasy piece.

[WARLORD]

Your comments could be used for the cloth Wound badge. These are found in Black silver and gold.

A link you might find interesting.

http://stirnpanzer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=789

[leib1]

Sorry but that link isn't working

[Thomas Durante]

They weren't autherized and there is no photographic evidence of them.

I agree with this statement. They can be found on some dealers websites and some look better than others, but in all likelihood they are all fantasy pieces. I would say it is possible that a soldier or two might have had one made for them privately, but that is just speculation on my part and there is just no way to verify them without photographic evidence.

Tom

[WARLORD]

To view just register. Photographic evidence is a good back up. But many instances of awards and badges being issude, that do not have this evidence. Such examples are the Retired Pilots badge, this was only found a matter of months ago. The British free corp. The 20 July wound badge. That was hard to trace. It became avalable in around 1984.Young Cassaks, Don Cossaks, 5th Don Cossak, no pictures. Are they fantersey? One could go on. The cloth badge was a vet bring back. Must hasten to say, this is not my piece.

[Ludwig]

I have never seen any original ones. For what it is worth.

[leib1]

Nice piece of cloth,but with out proof of where it came from or who's award, i think it's just fantasy.
But like you said you might find photographic evidence of them,but personally i wouldn't touch it.

[WARLORD]

This was taken from a prisoner here in GB, from the camp at Ely. Many very exciting pieces were obtained from this soarce.

[leibermuster]

Thank you for the help. I saw one this weekend, a silver bullion CCC that looked so crisp it looked new.

[Chris D.]

Thank you for the help. I saw one this weekend, a silver bullion CCC that looked so crisp it looked new.

Which, IMO, makes it even more suspect.

Even if there were cloth CCCs they would be nothing if not impossible to authenticate do to the lack of photographic evidence and the lack of standardization in construction. We know there were cloth EK1s but they EXTREMELY difficult to authenticate because of so many varying details. Prove me wrong, show me a period photo where we can see a cloth CCC and I will be eternally humbled, as I so often am. Until then, I will always have SERIOUS doubts on the originality of these items.
Kindest regards,

[WARLORD]

I bow to your thoughts on photographic evidence. But this is flawed for so many reasons. Please show me a Snippers badge in wear. You surly are not saying these are a fantersey, NO photographic evidence.