Another hollow PAB (but good)

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Lots of controversial hollow PABs knocking around at the moment so I thought I would just put this 100% good hollow bronze PAB up for review.

This was vet family obtained, togeather with other decorations from the same man.

It´s a lot different to the F&Rs that we have all been posting lately. I especially like the detailed grass area and the ? hook.

Anybody care to take a stab at the maker?

Thanks, Skip

[Philippe DB]

Skipy

Why are you posting this one for educational reason

For sure you know this one is 100% good. The only PAB with a factory cutout swas. And in absolutely wonderfull condition my friend.

Best way to recognize a good one besides the cutout swas is a fat daisy like plant in the left grass area.

Here is mine and if I'm not mistaken Jan has the only silver one I ever saw.

KR
Philippe

PS: No clue towards the maker sorry

[Philippe DB]

PAB hollow bronze reverse

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Phil,

I also like the little triangular stone sitting on top of the rock.

Skip

[Philippe DB]

Now that you mention it Skip, very nice feature, never noticed it

So if we use my "signature" theory the only thing we have to do is to find a marked one which shows these two features ad we found the maker.

Let me know if you get lucky Skip

KR
Philippe

PS. Don' hit me Frank, I know you don't like my theory

[Jan Arne S]

Hi Skip and Phillippe !
Nice hollow PAB`s in Bronze with cutout swaz . And with great details on grass area .
I have compared with all my "solid" back PAB`s , but is not able to find any one that match .
Here is mine in silver .

Jan Arne

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Back of badge

[Philippe DB]

A real beauty Jan, realy that badge

Why are they so difficult to find

KR
Philippe

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Who knows why these are so hard to find, must have been a really small company that made them I reckon, seeing as we can find no matching massive zincers they probably stopped making them early on.

Jan, has yours got a block type hinge instead of the wrap around type?
and maybe it´s just the photo, but I can not see the tiny stone on the rock!

Skip

[Philippe DB]

Skip, I know Frank's going to hit me again, but since you brought it up I'll post it anyway.

I think I found a massive version that maybe was made by the same company. I think that might be the case based upon the following.

1. I always thought the eagle on these badges shows some similarity with the F&R type.

2. It has quit broad legs with feather waving out

3. It has exeptional grass detailing

4. and probably most important, I think it was Anthony who brought this up once, it's the only PAB which clearly has 7 visible track wheels in the right track when looking at it.

The pictures I'm going to post came from K Winklers sites and I hope he doesn't mind us using them for educational purposes

The first one also has one swas arm cut out, but since I found others who didn't have the cutout this could be done by the recipient I suppose.

I think the four points mentioned above are all to be found on this badge.

Let me know what you think.

KR
Philippe

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unknown PAB Reverse

Also note the wrap arround type hinge.

[Philippe DB]

This one I'm posting just because you can see the 7the track wheel better here. It doesn't have the swas cutout

[Jan Arne S]

Hi Skip !
Yupp ! If "block hinge" is what I think it is . Like it is one some EK 1 , but on EK 1`s they lie down . And hinge like on Deumer earlie IAB`s .
And it has the "stone" , but on scan it looks more like an shadow .

Jan Arne