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    PAB's - Questions galore.

    1. Are there any known existing lists of recipients of the Panzertruppen-Abzeichen der Legion Condor? If so -are they available to the public?

    2. Stupid question to which I probably already know the answer but: Qualification for the Panzerkampfabzeichen im Silber was only counted from enagements fought after the introduction of the badge in Dec. 1939 -partaking in the campaign in Poland did not count towards the "three assaults on three different days". True/false?

    3. If a panzersoldat had recieved the Panzerkampfabzeichen im Silber; would he be eligible for the Panzerkampfabzeichen im Bronze if he, for instance, first served in the a regular Panzer-Regiment until say... 1943 and then served in a Panzer-Aufklärungs-Abteilung from 1943 till the end of the war? Or would the latter be superceeded by the former -thus "forcing" the soldier to qualify for a numbered bronze badge instead?

    4. If a soldier such as the one described above would be eligible for both; would he wear both, the "highest" (read:silver) or the most recent one (ie:bronze)?
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    One could most likely write a book on each of these qustions

    Well here is my stab at #4

    The regulations were clear only one badge could be worn at a time. I am not sure there was a grade difference between silver and bronze PABs they just denote Tank Crews (silver) and other AVF crews and later Panzer Grenadiers (Bronze). The numbered ones were of course higher and would be worn in place of a lower one.

    But is seems many ignored this rule and wore as many as they qualified for (wearing only two seems to be the most common but I have seen more ) The KM seem to be the service were having two at a time is very common.

    Two might also be because during award ceremonies, the soilder's present badge would be worn and the new one added, and then one remove later I would guess

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      Thank you for your reply, byterock.

      It is as I suspected then. As it pertains to the regulations I mean.

      Originally posted by byterock View Post
      I am not sure there was a grade difference between silver and bronze PABs they just denote Tank Crews (silver) and other AVF crews and later Panzer Grenadiers (Bronze). The numbered ones were of course higher and would be worn in place of a lower one.
      Yes, that much I have gathered. Perhaps I should have clarified my point a bit better. When I used "higher" I was merely thinking more along the lines of the silver badge being just slightly more prestidious than the bronze padge as it was the original award (and awarded to the Panzertruppen proper). Or something to that extent. I should have chosen my words better and more carefully know though. Neverless I appreciate your answer and the fact that you pointed that out as you could not know whether I knew or not.

      But is seems many ignored this rule and wore as many as they qualified for (wearing only two seems to be the most common but I have seen more ) The KM seem to be the service were having two at a time is very common.
      This makes sense. I imagine that the men serving in the Heer were quite proud men -and as such, they would in certain instances wear both badges; regardless of what the regulations said. Stranger things have happened, no?

      On a more personal note: Unfortunately for me my grandfather has his panzer jacket open, thus obscuring his medals and badges, in the only photograph of him that is dated 1944...

      Nevertheless,
      once again: Thanks.

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