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    #31
    Originally posted by Flak88 View Post
    Thanks Hans - yes, this is the badge he sent me and as soon as I got it I thought - wow, this looks good. But I am always skeptical. But it looks like we may have found the FLL Heeresflak! Makes sense - they made Luft Flaks. Man, those 23 rivets are a lot though!
    Marc

    PS - oh Robert is gonna be pissed...
    OK, I want it back!

    Robert

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      #32
      Now to revisit WH Wien...always wondered why those are fakes...

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        #33
        Anyone have an FLL IAB or PAB with the same catch?
        Marc

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          #34
          Originally posted by Flak88 View Post
          Now to revisit WH Wien...always wondered why those are fakes...
          Isn't it obvious??!! The fakers obviously misspelled the City, its "VIENNA"

          Tom
          If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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            #35
            Have at it, snapperhead...

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=258798

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              #36
              So are we now calling this a good badge?
              pseudo-expert

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                #37
                THAT, my friend, is the million dollar question...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
                  I guess the first thing to do is examine the two items independently. I don't know squat about boxes but we have people that do.

                  As for the badge- for an apparantly unissued piece the eagles feet are almost worn flat. What is the stuff that looks like fine dirt next to the eagle's left leg? Lastly, wouldn't this have been a die forged badge versus a die cast badge? If so you would not have a line. Oh yeah, the swaz makes me want to cry.
                  I agree with Don that there is a cause for concern when the badge is worn and it is unissued??? It does not add up? The swaz is a mess and the head on this thing looks as if it is stretching outward? It could just be an optical illusion.

                  Eric
                  I once flew in a B-17, B-24, & a B-25. Next, I want to fire an 88 round.

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                    #39
                    Hi guys,

                    Marc, did Marcus ever get back to you on the box?

                    So, how do you classify this badge in your book, since you are pretty much done with it? Its tough to make the judgement call when to draw the line with adding things to the book. I had the same dilema with the CCC book. Seems like every other day some new info comes to light that will be great for the book, but you have to eventually send it to the publisher .

                    Tom
                    If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

                    New Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
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                      #40
                      It's one of those things where you're darned if you do, and darned if you don't. I've had the priveledge of proof-reading Marc's book over the last two weeks, and knowing Marc's nature I know he wants everything in the book to be as humanly accurate as possible, just as you did, Tom. This is a touch call with such little to work with.

                      Robert

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                        #41
                        I'll deal with it as I deal with it...

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                          #42
                          Perhaps a chapter on "Problematic badges" would suffice.
                          pseudo-expert

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
                            Perhaps a chapter on "Problematic badges" would suffice.
                            You don't know this guy, Don. He'll beat down every door in Germany until he finds a vet with one. He's an animal.

                            Robert

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by robert pierce View Post
                              You don't know this guy, Don. He'll beat down every door in Germany until he finds a vet with one. He's an animal.

                              Robert
                              Then it would be a verified award and not problematic. If they are only found on dealer sites and ebay this is where the problem starts.
                              pseudo-expert

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                                #45
                                ...woof...

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