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    GAB 75: real or fake?

    What do you think about this badge? Looking at page #356 of Frank Heukemes book, it presents several similar particulars but weight and measurements don't corresponde ( Height 56.85, Width 48.40, Weight 30,32 ). Thanks in advance for your opinions.






    #2
    I would personally pass on this example. It is not the same badge as the type you referenced in Frank's book(which is a fake).
    It is close to the unknown maker number 2, however the reverse lacks the definition found in the original unknown maker number 2 examples. I cannot say for certain it is fake, but I see enough things that would cause me concern. best wishes,
    jeff
    Looking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.

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      #3
      Hello,
      does anyone else have an idea about? Thanks
      Val

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        #4
        Difficult, but as Jeff says, there are some things that I have to put a ? after...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Ludwig View Post
          Difficult, but as Jeff says, there are some things that I have to put a ? after...
          Ludwig and Jeff, thanks for your opinions but I should need to get a definitive answer about this badge before giving it back. Could anyone among the experts give me any "deeper" response? Thanks a lot. Val

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            #6
            I suggest you search this forum and look at earlier posts.
            Besides that, it´s not always easy to explain exactly what is strange.
            AND the fakers read those posts, too. That means that every time a mistake from their side is brought to attention, they learn! It´s a vicious circle.

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              #7
              Originally posted by valsente View Post
              Ludwig and Jeff, thanks for your opinions but I should need to get a definitive answer about this badge before giving it back. Could anyone among the experts give me any "deeper" response? Thanks a lot. Val
              Val- you may want to touch base directly with Frank Heukemes. He has written a VERY detailed book on these with TONS of very high resolution photos and detailed analysis. He would be what many would consider a world authority on these rare badges. He may be able to help you find out what you are looking for. You may also want to buy his book if you plan on continuing to delve into these highly sought after bages (and highly faked).

              http://www.heukemes.com/index.php?kat=news

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                #8
                [QUOTE=AZartman;2253663]Val- you may want to touch base directly with Frank Heukemes. He has written a VERY detailed book on these with TONS of very high resolution photos and detailed analysis. He would be what many would consider a world authority on these rare badges. He may be able to help you find out what you are looking for. You may also want to buy his book if you plan on continuing to delve into these highly sought after bages (and highly faked).

                I bought is book as first one in Italy, I presume, and just for that I thought the badge could be the "unknown maker #3" even if some difference. I'll be very grateful to Frank if he would like to give me his definitive opinion.

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                  #9
                  Best of luck. I'm no expert on these but there were some features of the reverse that I liked. I'm sorry I missed the part in your first post that mentioned directly that you had his book. Oops sorry.



                  [quote=valsente;2253691]
                  Originally posted by AZartman View Post
                  Val- you may want to touch base directly with Frank Heukemes. He has written a VERY detailed book on these with TONS of very high resolution photos and detailed analysis. He would be what many would consider a world authority on these rare badges. He may be able to help you find out what you are looking for. You may also want to buy his book if you plan on continuing to delve into these highly sought after bages (and highly faked).

                  I bought is book as first one in Italy, I presume, and just for that I thought the badge could be the "unknown maker #3" even if some difference. I'll be very grateful to Frank if he would like to give me his definitive opinion.

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                    #10
                    By the way – where is Frank Heukemes nowdays?

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                      #11
                      his website seems to indicate that he is having some personal issues. There are some on this forum that have worked closely with him in the past who may be able to shed more light on this then me.

                      Originally posted by Ludwig View Post
                      By the way – where is Frank Heukemes nowdays?

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                        #12
                        OK, thanks for the info.

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                          #13
                          what is franks web site?

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                            #14
                            http://www.heukemes.com/index.php?kat=home

                            Originally posted by rkoy View Post
                            what is franks web site?

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