2 IABs, opinions?

[Chaos]

Hello!
Looking for opinions about these IABs.
Originality, maker?

1st



2nd

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Chaos,

IMO they are both originals. The Souval is definately good IMO and I don't recognize the second one, but nothing throws me off of this one. Can you post a clear, straight on shot of the obverse? Everything else looks OK.

Nice pics by the way

Tom

[kenneth wolfe]

Hi

I really would like to see a better picture of the eagle's head but if I had to pick one I'm thinking maybe a Junker but I'm not sure because I not a home to compare with my database.

Kenneth

[kenneth wolfe]

Hi

I'm stupid I don't think it's a Junker but will get back to you on what it is.


Ken

[Giel VW]

Hi,

As Tom said, the first is a good Souval.

Kenneth, second badge is for sure no Juncker but an extremely nice hollowback FCL.

I have never seen such a strong finish on a zink FCL badge before. Could you check if the material is zink or tombak? Normally these are only made in zink...