PAB and IAB

[Cyclosarin]

Got these both off E-stand - both badges are silver if I remember right, and both are unmarked. I was just wondering if there is any way to see who it was made by based on design. I've seen people id unmarked badges on here and any help would be greatly appreciated.

I apologize for the bad light conditions and can take pictures in better light tomorrow if need be. Thanks guys.










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-Jen

[Christopher G.]

That is a very nice Daisy PAB.

Regards,
Chris G.

[Cyclosarin]

I've heard people mention Daisy PAB's before. What exactly makes a PAB a daisy? Is there something on the badge that stands out that makes it one? Just curious..and thanks for responding
-Jen

[Giel VW]

The first is indeed a good 2nd pattern Daisy, or with what we know now a Deumer badge.

Second badge is a good Ernst Müller IAB.

[Cyclosarin]

Thanks so much! I plan on keeping a log book of what my unmarked ones are. You guys are awesome.
-Jen

[R. Schmitt]

...not an everday PAB, congratulations on this nice catch! I know everyone will like that one, isn't that so!
The IAB is indeedan Ernst Mueller - the eagle's head, characteristics like the semi hollow rifle, and certain flaws, like the one right of the rifle Butt on the reverse are examples of what to pay attention to when identifying this one...
Here's another Ernst Mueller that was just recently posted here on the forum to compare....
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=245777

[Bill Gaynor]

I've heard people mention Daisy PAB's before. What exactly makes a PAB a daisy? Is there something on the badge that stands out that makes it one? Just curious..and thanks for responding
-Jen

Look at your first picture at the inside tank track (to right). The second wheel, now just below it on the ground, do you see the daisy ?

[R. Schmitt]

...here's my Ex DaisyPAB2 with its daisy (like Bill said - underneath the track in the grass).

[Cyclosarin]

Look at your first picture at the inside tank track (to right). The second wheel, now just below it on the ground, do you see the daisy ?

Sure did! I noticed it last night a bit after asking my question. I wonder what inspired the original creator to put that little flower there - ie if it had any significant meaning behind it. Huh. Guess that's something I'll just have to wonder about.
-Jen

[Levesque]

Very nice Deumer PAB Jen! From your pictures it sure looks like a bronze badge.IMo the bronze Deumers are very common while the silver variant is much harder to find.
Dan

[Cyclosarin]

Very nice Deumer PAB Jen! From your pictures it sure looks like a bronze badge.IMo the bronze Deumers are very common while the silver variant is much harder to find.
Dan

I think the light may be very bad in the panzer badge pics. I used no flash and the light was really bad in that room. I will try and get an outdoor picture of that panzer after I get home from work today and I will let you guys be the judge. If I recall right I had not acquired a bronze panzer badge yet and have been keeping my eyes open for one. Pictures to follow in about a couple hours.
-Jen