Flak Badges for opinions

[BWstan]

Here are two Flak Badges I would welcome opinions on. Thank you in advance.

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[Don D.]

I'm sure Marc will jump in and correct me but I don't like either one. The bottom looks like the lizardman fake and the top looks like the "Claw" fake, and is too new and has what appears to be a casting line.

OK Marc, let me have it.

[Tom Yanacek]

I agree. Both badges are fakes.

[Marc Garlasco]

Don, you got them right. They are bad. Man, I HATE the claw fake. The Assman marked one is a pretty new variant fake.
Marc

[Christopher G.]

So thats the claw fake huh ! I must say the reverse looks one of those L/21's and not too bad a job at that aspect.

Regards,
Chris G.

[TerryK]

These and others are on ePier from a person that goes by csred6 He also
has a Kriegsmarine ACB marked jmme&sohn Berlin and a CAB marked AGMuK
Gablonz starting at real badge prices.
Terry

[Tom Yanacek]

These and others are on ePier from a person that goes by csred6 He also
has a Kriegsmarine ACB marked jmme&sohn Berlin and a CAB marked AGMuK
Gablonz starting at real badge prices.
Terry

Another one to watch on ePier uses the seller ID of "booger" He doesn't have a single item that is real.

[Don D.]

BWstan, please ensure these make it into the fakes gallery.
thanks for everyone's input. My last word is the Eiper has even more fakes than Ebay so you really gotta know what you are looking at there.

[Marc Garlasco]

I just pulled out a real L21. Man it is close. The shape of the head from the reverse makes me 90% sure it is fake - a shot of the front would put me 100%. It is a dangerous one.
Marc