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**Porsche** · 04-20-2007, 01:54 PM

Javi,
difficult to say. It's different to my AGMuK, but there were several different factories making them, so there will be lots of different tools. My general impression is that it's OK, the detail is sharp and I've seen the same hardware on previous posts that have got a thumbs up from the experts.

Any concerns I have lie with the lack of the hand finishing of the edges which I took as typical of AGMuK, and the lettering on the rear which doesn't have some of the definition, clarity and characteristics (spacing and alignment) that I look for. But then, as I say, these were made with several variations and by several factories, so maybe I'm being too picky.

Neil

**Porsche** · 04-20-2007, 01:56 PM

Are you sure this is in Gold? It looks like a Silver CCC to me. I'd expect a deeper colour from a Gold

Neil (again)

**javi_e** · 04-20-2007, 06:51 PM

thanks Neil for your opinion,
In the description of the item, says that it´s a gold CCC, a lot of user of this forum says that it´s a not fiable dealer...
I´ve a silver CCC from the same dealer, it´s rewied for Tom Durante and he says that my silver CCC is original.There is a post on this forum with the silver CCC, i will be grateful with your opinion.You posted your opinion on this thread, but i need to be sure,after know the opinions from the dealer.
Thanks!!

here is the link:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=209688

**Porsche** · 04-21-2007, 07:58 AM

Javi,
whether or not something is original or not is often a matter of opinion. My opinion, for what it's worth is that the Silver at least is OK, while If the real colour of the Gold is better than it looks on your thread, then that's probably OK too. To get some real confidence you need to compare the die characteristics with some other known (or at least agreed) originals.
I have to say, that without comparing the badges in too much detail, they both seem to have the same lettering characteristics on the reverse which I originally questioned. If so, (and I'll compare them better later), it suggests that they both came from the same die-set, and this does seem like a very strange coincidence.

Regards,
Neil

**javi_e** · 04-21-2007, 09:46 AM

I hope that it is quite correct. I do not have any book of CCC´s to be able to compare it.The details from the silver CCC are very good in my opinion.The backplate is perfectly ensambled,And it does not have remains of having being re-silvered...the letters looks seem to have be spoiled or probably badly written... there is a same CCC in bronze like my silver in weitze.
87611
Nahkampfspange in Bronze Kriegsmetall dunkel bronziert, Hersteller: "FEC.Peekhaus Berlin - A.G.M.u.K. Gablonz", leicht getragen, Zustand 2.

**javi_e** · 04-21-2007, 09:50 AM

sorry, the letters are the same as the weitze CCC. the "GA" from GABLONZ are "fall" Unlike the other letters...

**Don D.** · 04-21-2007, 10:49 AM

Do a search on this forum for GABLONZ CCCs. You will find many good and bad ones to compare with yours.

**javi_e** · 04-21-2007, 11:43 AM

Hi Don,
Thanks for your reply, I´ve found the same bronze CCC like mine in the forum.
By chance it belong to Tom Durante.So now i have found two CCC´s like mine,

. The letters are exactly like mine,the crimping and all details from the front.Thank you all for your help,

**Porsche** · 04-21-2007, 01:18 PM

Javi,
good, I'm glad that the conclusion is that these are OK

. I'll note that these differences in the lettering show another 'agreed' die set, thanks for the information.

Cheers,
Neil

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