Thoughts on this AS PAB

[Nick_since_1985]

I heard all PAB with a 'ball' hinge are fakes, is this one a fake?

[Nick_since_1985]

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[Nick_since_1985]

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[Giel VW]

Where did you hear that Nick, that's absolutely nonsense. This is a good AS.

[Nick_since_1985]

Somewhere on the forum

In the 2xPAB from HAD thread, but after rereading that thread, I've come to the conclusion I've misread...

Anyway what are your thougths on this PAB?

[Chet Sowersby]

This PAB looks to be the real deal including a good dose of zincpest. However, I am uncomfortable with hinge area as well as the makers mark. I've never seen one so distorted.

Chet

[VonLuger]

Good eye Chet-The distorted maker mark shouldn't be in a real one unless the metal melted like silly putty or something-strange badge to say the least-they are very common I'd look for one with out all the zink pest and question marks..
just compared to my silver and bronze and the reverse has a different concaved pattern...really don't like it now

can I see close up of grass pattern from angle your pic it seems to be missing some grass..

[hcliffe]

Also notice how the ball hinge is not centered. Very odd.

[scott3000]

I would have to agree, not for my collection

[Nick_since_1985]

But the zinkpest indicates ==> age, not?

[VonLuger]

But the zinkpest indicates ==> age, not?

It could also be done with acid for a artificial age-
The badge IMO is a High School metal shop project gone wrong

[Al P]

This badge is on the Estand right now HERE

Besides the reverse set up which looks like crap, did anyone look at the grass pattern compared to a known original?

Image from this thread


Al

[Indy]

hi guys....

This PAB is kind of odd.... Those are my doubts : right wing frame, driver's windows, and grass. Hope owner can provide some "big" pictures.

kr
Indy

[Chet Sowersby]

I consider both of the badges suspect. They both have the same type of "ageing" present.

Chet

[Al P]

Good eye Chet, I think the F&R is also suspect upon taking a closer look.

The aging threw me off, and it looks like it did the same for more than a few others as well as it went un noticed on the estand for so long.

I saw the sales thread soon after it was posted, but never took a real good look at either of the PABs because I had no interest in buying them. Today I stumble upon this thread and realize that the badge Nick posted was on the estand.


Even zinc pest is no longer a good indicator anymore.

Al