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    How flexible/bendable should a zinc PAB be?

    Hi guys,

    I just got this in the mail and it arrived in a bent condition which didn't match the pictures, so I assumed it got a whack in transit, I was able to bend it back into shape with relatively little effort using my fingers, is zinc supposed to be this flexible? I am at work so can't compare it with any of my other zinc badges.

    Regards

    Steve
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        #4
        Zink should not be bendable. See if you can write with it on a piece of paper.
        pseudo-expert

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          Hi Don,

          Yes it does write on paper. Does this mean it is a fake or made of some other metal?

          Regards

          Steve

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            pab

            Sounds like a FAKE to me, unfortunately.

            Anthony.

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              #7
              Probably lead. Probably a fake. I had a fake high seas badge that was like that.

              Hank
              Unless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
              ~ Dan Hampton, Viper Pilot

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                Hi guys,

                Thanks, fortunately I bought it off the e-stand here so I'd best get on to the seller and let him know.

                Regards

                Steve

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                  #9
                  Lead fake. What does it weigh?
                  pseudo-expert

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                    #10
                    Hello Steve,
                    A fairly convincing casting, most likely cast from an original. The soft and bendable base metal is a dead giveaway though. The hardware looks almost correct for a wartime Souval.
                    Best regards! Tom
                    Mihi libertas necessest!

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                      #11
                      Hi guys,

                      Thanks again.

                      Don - I dont think it is solid lead as it is not heavy enough, I dont know what it weighs as I don't have access to a scale, but it weighs less than comparable lead wargames miniatures of which I have plenty of experience having made thousands over the years.

                      It is possibly a mix of lead and tin, either way you can write like a pencil with it, and you can bend it easily with the fingers. Also, the difference in hand and to the picture, is pronounced. The picture is a very light gray whereas in hand it is a very dark gray, however, when you use it like a pencil, the part in contact with the paper becomes very shiny.

                      Actually, you can polish it to a high sheen with paper very easily.

                      Regards

                      Steve

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                        #12
                        Looks like very heavy cast pock marks on the back.

                        One to go back I'm afraid.

                        Regards ...

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                          #13
                          I wouldn't be too fast to damn that as fake without better shots. Some original zinc badges will have a degree of bend to them with pressure. I had a genuine zinc minesweeper that could be bent quite easily also the bad guys are able to refinish original cccs by bending them so the backplate drops out, particularly on F&BLs

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                            Hi Patrick,

                            You can bend it between fingers and thumbs, without straining, even at its thickest point around the track area. The badge itself looks good and the reverse set-up is fine, but it is very easy to bend.

                            It is easier to bend than the broad zinc retaining pin on the back of a late war KVK1.

                            I am at work at the moment but I will post some pictures of it tonight.

                            Regards

                            Steve

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                              As Patrick says, some original late war badges can be bent when some pressure is applied. Especially some of the very late Kriegsmetall alloys that may have even contained a small amount of lead in the mixture. But when it bends easily with mere pressure between two fingers, or when you can write with it like a No.2 lead pencil, then you have got a problem.
                              Best regards! Tom
                              Mihi libertas necessest!

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