Who is to say that they didn't have more than one die either? How many badges would have been ordered? Are the tanks all the same and just the details of the wreath different? Why would they enhance the acorn details by hand? Not very practical if you ask me.
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Looking at another later wartime badge, the Anti-Partisan, I would think there are so many variations it makes you dizzy. Original Anti-Partisans come in greatly varying sizes, detail differences, and cut-outs.
I have to agree that, like the Anti-Partisan badge, there were multiple dies. Otherwise, the variance is due to post war production with only the type A being original.
Lots of study yet to be done and hopefully a logical conclusion.
Bob HritzIn the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.Comment
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Another thing is the technique for making these. They are die cast not struck. I would think you have a lot of room for variance based upon metal composition, temperature and pressure.pseudo-expertComment
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Agreed Don, but that still doesn't explain the combination of dotting and crosshatching.Originally posted by ddoering
The differences on the panzers are non existant when it comes to the design itself but are obvious when it comes to detailing especialy in the area of the track chains. Also in this case the type one shows constant high detail.
@Bob, can we compare the GB to the APB? IMO we can't because as far as I known we're not sure that only one maker made all the APB's
KR
PhilippeComment
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Dear Philippe,
Here are the measurements of a professionally measured badge, you can compare this to your badge, at first glance they are nearly identical but the weight on yours is 5g less.
Height 61.83
Width 47.86
Weight 26.13
Philippe, I will email you with the pic and a comparision with another badge, they are to big for the Forum and I don't have time to resize them.
Regards,
AnthonyComment
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Txs my friend, looking forward to getting themOriginally posted by Anthony
KR
PhilippeComment
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Morning Stan
Just wondering how the accorn patterns on the last Bronze 50 compare to your Silver example?
KR
PhilippeComment
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I have measured my badge to the best of my ability using a non-scientific vernier. Measurements are as follows:-
Height = 61mm
Width = 45.5mm
Width incl tank = 47.3mm
Weight 25.1g
I have re-examined the acorns and would say they were poorly-defined cross hatched and not dots.
I will post some pics but apologise for the poor quality.
StanComment
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Another picComment
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Last picture. Some acorn's cross-hatching are better than others but nowhere near as good as on my un-marked "JFS" 25.
StanComment
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Thanks for trying Stan. The pics indeed aren't detailed enough but on the last one you posted it's obvious that that isn't a cross hatching pattern.
Stan it should be possible for you to compare the patterns I posted of the bronze 50, posts 171/173, with the one on your badge and to let us know if they are or aren't a 100% match. This is very important.
Txs in advance
KR
PhilippeLast edited by Philippe DB; 07-04-2006, 03:54 AM.Comment
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Phillipe,
They are not a 100% match. Any cross-hatching on my badge is quite faint and has definately not been done after the badge was made as a "finishing touch".
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Txs Stan, by now I was rather sure that they wouldn't match but you're holding her.Originally posted by Stan
This makes it only more complex. IMO these are copies and , based upon the unique hinge cut, both yours an mine can be firmly linked together.
However WHY/HOW would a faker change accorn details on one and the same copie. This just doens't make sense
KR
PhilippeComment
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Stan I would need your help again my friend
How does your accorn detailing compare to the ones I featured in posts 97 to 101.
Also take a look at your eagles claw detailing compared to post 102.
Many thanks in advance
KR
PhilippeComment
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Well Phillipe, I've been collecting badges for more than 40 years and I know that variations do exist which do not necessarily mean that a badge is a copy. Please remember that the quality control of badges manufactured in the last years of the war was not too strict and I have seen several examples of badges being awarded which had imperfections.
Furthermore, as has been already stated, manufacturers had more that one die.
I have always been of the impression that every copy has an in-built fault and I don't think that we have yet found that fault.
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