CCC Construction question

[Jeff S]

Hopefully somebody can answer this for me. When CCC's were produced, how was the open part in the center constructed? Was it produced cut out, or was it struck and then hand finished?

I may not be asking this the right way. Photo attached, not great, but would you ever have a clasp with the center not cut out initially?

Regards and thanks for any insight!

[Jeff S]

Reverse

[Richard]

Another question that remains unanswered would be why they cut it out in the first place only to put a backing plate in?
Richard V

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Jeff,

I believe that the entire clasp was punched out first, and then as a second step, the center was sheared out with a separate machine. If you look closely at the inside of this motif, you can see shear marks. On clasps that are missing the backplate, you can see that this area is entirely flat on the reverse.

After they sheared out the center, one maker hand finished the remainder of what little material was left by intricate hand finishing.

By the way, the planchet you show is a reproduction, used to make a very common AGMuK fake.

Tom D.

[Philippe DB]

By the way, the planchet you show is a reproduction, used to make a very common AGMuK fake.

Tom D.

I agree. Over the years I have seen quite a few of these pop up on Geman auction sites.

KR
Philippe

[wh014d4394]

yes and there is one on a well known dealers site just waiting for a sucker to buy it and i think this is the one

[Jeff S]

This isn't on a dealer's site as far as I know. Who has a similar one?

Tom, Philippe, I appreciate the info about this. Can you tell me what is the give away with this? I did a search on the forum and didn't find it specificially being discussed. It looked pretty good comparing the photos to books I have, but I'm obviously missing something.

Best regards.

[wh014d4394]

im 99 pc sure it was on www.das reich.co.uk but it appears the bird as flown