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    #1

    "4" IAB Fake?

    Hi,

    what´s your opinion on this one?

    I don´t like the details on it and nore do i like that flattened cast hinge construction The original one´s i have seen are rounded in the hinge cast.

    Is it me or is it the badge
    Regards
    Hans N

    Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
    I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).
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    Hi Hans

    I agree not quite correct, especially the hinge area.

    This is my #4 Assman reverse

    cheers

    Graeme
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      #3
      Hans

      I think the catch also looks like it has been filed into shape from the inside. I think these badges should have cast catches like the one below (from a bronze Assman #2).

      Maybe you could post a pic of the obverse as well..

      cheers

      Graeme
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      Last edited by GraemeS; 10-27-2005, 07:16 PM.

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        #4
        I guess it´s me, time to hit the sack after a hard days work.
        Regards
        Hans N

        Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
        I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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          #5
          Hi Hans, this badge does seem a little odd. I don't have pics of my "4" handy unfortunately. The hinge seems to be off, seems a litte tall if that makes any sense and almost like it isn't relly a cast hinge. Looks almost like the cast hinge broke off and a crude replacement was put on. How is the obverse of the badge, do you have any pics?

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            #6
            "Looks almost like the cast hinge broke off and a crude replacement was put on."

            Greg

            I also thought exactly that. But the seller says there have been no repairs to it. I am sure Hans will post an obverse shot later.

            regards

            Graeme

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              #7
              Link to the IAB obverse
              Regards
              Hans N

              Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
              I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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                #8
                The frontside looks ok to me. Perhaps there existed two hinge-catch-variations???

                Hansi

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                  #9
                  4 Iab Fake

                  Hello Hans, this badge looks good to me.matches a 4 on Lorenzo Browns site.
                  the reverse looks close. maybe lorenzo can look at it, I am sure he can help more. try this http://lbmilitaria.homestead.com/home.html and have a look.

                  Billybob

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                    #10
                    Hi,

                    the "4 IAB" looks like a fake to me.

                    All my "4 IABs" look different and the "1 IABs" the "2 IABs" and the "3 IABs" look like my "4 IAB" so I would not like to have the shown IAB in my collection.

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                      #11
                      here is mone

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                        rev
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                            #14
                            I agree with Sven. All of the numbered Assman IABs I have seen have a different hinge to the one shown.

                            I also dislike the bayonet area details and the "blob" above the catch, it reminds me of an entry point to a casting, that was never cleaned up. All my IABs of this maker have a "clean" catch.

                            With examples of these badges found frequently I would pass on the badge in question.

                            cheers

                            GRaeme

                            PS As I only posted the reverse of mine here is the obverse.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by billybob
                              Hello Hans, this badge looks good to me.matches a 4 on Lorenzo Browns site.
                              the reverse looks close. maybe lorenzo can look at it, I am sure he can help more. try this http://lbmilitaria.homestead.com/home.html and have a look.

                              Billybob
                              The one on Lorenzo's site does not match this badge.
                              What I do not like about this one is the hinge, catch, and as GraemeS stated the bayonet.

                              I would not add this to my collection.

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