PAB, Your opinions please, Real…..Fake

[Dennis GT]

PAB, Your opinions please, Real…..Fake...Please.
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<o>Here is a hollow PAB I am not sure about. I think it looks a little like the 1942 AWS type. </o>
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<o>What do you think???</o>

[Levesque]

Hello Dennis,

I'm pretty sure that there are no hollowback variants of this badge Definitely..fake!
Dan

[luftwaffe303]

IMO fake ... I am not so sure about hollow variants however I do not like this badge at all , especially the pin.
T

[Dennis GT]

side by side

Here is one with of a ARNO WALLPACH from Mike Pinkus's site. I hope this is ok with you Mike.

[Hans N]

I see no worries with your PAB Dennis, looks like a good one to me.

[Chet Sowersby]

Dennis,
There is nothing wrong with this badge. It's a keeper! This type of PAB is often referred to as the "Wernstine design". It is shared by several makers known and unknown.

Chet

[Chet Sowersby]

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[Don D.]

I thought there were no hollow Wernstein design PABs?? Or am I confused with the Trabbi???? Its been a long day.
Don

[Levesque]

Hello Dennis,

Here's some scans of a hollowback PAB very much like yours that was determined to be fake on one of the forum threads( although I was unable to find it again ) I had saved these in my fake PAB files for future reference and hope that whoever posted them does not mind..I believe it was Philippe, but I could be wrong.
Dan

[Levesque]

and the reverse..

[Chet Sowersby]

Guys,
Now that I have had a night to sleep on it and look at my files I belive Don is correct. There are no accepted hollowbacks with the Wernstine design. I should have done my homework before replying to Dennis's thread. Sorry...

Chet

[Dennis GT]

I wanted to know

I wanted to know about this badge. I see that there are no hollow backs with the Wernstine design. I am unclear as to what that is? I understood that the design had to do with the grass and the rock in the foreground. I have seen some other hollow backs I though were Wermstine types. I am still learning
Like this one http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=112236

[Levesque]

Hello Dennis,

When you compare any Wernstein PAB to a F&R/ BH Mayer PAB just look at the eagles head. It's very different on each badge..now the grass area however is pretty close Hope that helps alittle.
Dan

[Frank Heukemes]

A not so uncommon fake and true, UP TO NOW, no original HOLLOW PAB with that design is known.