More fuel for the Osang PAB fire

[scott3000]

sc zimmerman

[scott3000]

rear of sc zimm

[Philippe DB]

Morning Guys,


Well after looking at the additional badges posted by Anthony and Scott I wonder if the little differences afterall just arent the result of die wear or other production or materiel related circumstances.

@Scott IMO your second badge isn't a silver grade but also a bronze one.

KR
Philippe

[robert60446]

Well after looking at the additional badges posted by Anthony and Scott I wonder if the little differences afterall just arent the result of die wear or other production or materiel related circumstances.

Dear Philippe,
Now you are just messing up with me...my eyes are bleeding from staring at all these badges...anyway, have you noticed my measurements: Weight: 29.30g , H: 60.58mm, W:42.38mm. Could you please check your height data? It looks like we are off by 0.48 mm...

[Frank Heukemes]

Good discovery by Hans. I saw the difference in the coaxial gun, but the hairline, which can be found on BOTH types convinced me these must belong together. I have a badge of each "type". Please all check for the diagonal "scratch" on my Osang's turret. Does any other badge have this or is it a unique production related fault on just this one item?

@Mike Pinkus:

i am even more suprised about the LGAB....are you sure the mark is legit?

I am not 100% sure, of course, but I do have a Schlachtflieger FFS which practically cannot be a fake which bears teh exact same Osang mark. The mark is origual to the badge.

[Anthony]

Hi frank,

I am missing what you mean about the scratch on the turrent etc could you post a close up and I will check mine, thanks.

Regards,

Anthony

[robert60446]

Hi frank,

I am missing what you mean about the scratch on the turrent etc could you post a close up and I will check mine, thanks.

Regards,

Anthony

Anthony,
I guess Frank is asking for marked by me area...

[Frank Heukemes]

That's right.

[Anthony]

There is no scratches on the turrent on any of mine.


Regards,

Anthony

[Sal Williams]

so what has come of this? any new findings?

Best, Sal

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Sal,

The essence (for me) is:

-badge is original
-mark is original to the badge
-mark corresponds 100% with the regular Osang mark
-apparently the only badge of that type known among our group of collectors bearing that mark (or ANY mark)
-a likely hint that these could have been made by Osang (to be verified with more examples or to be re-evaluated should PABs of this type be found with other marks)

Cheers,

Frank

[Philippe DB]

-apparently the only badge of that type known among our group of collectors bearing that mark (or ANY mark)

Dear Frank,

I agree accept with the "or ANY mark"

I'm sure you overlooked Albert's amazing Assman marked SC Juncker PAB

KR
Philippe

[Philippe DB]

Close-up maker mark

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Philippe,

True, I forgot for the moment but have it in my files.

[Philippe DB]

Dear Frank,

In fact what we have is a bit of total chaos. Certainly after seeing some other known PAB's with inexplicable maker marks it's obvious to me that we are missing an important piece of knowledge on how and why companies were working together. Problem is where to find the information to make sense out of all of this

KR
Philippe