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    #1

    Silver CCC by R.S.

    Hi guys,
    I can really use your help here. What is your take on this clasp? Thanks in advance.
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      Side view...
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        Eagle...
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          "r"
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            Most unusual way that the backplate is attached on this R.S. Normally these are affixed by the metal being crimped into place on two points on each side. Is the backplate secure or loose?

            Almost appears that it has been refinished. Looks pretty shiney in the one picture from the reverse at the angle.

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                Catch and hinge...
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                  Ccc

                  I agree; the crimping I expect to see on R.S. CCCs is distinctive and quite different from what this badge shows. Additionally, the R.S. appears to be a bit larger than what I have encountered and the catch affixed differently.

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                    Hi Ron,

                    That badge just makes me worry. The obverse features all look correct, but they have that 'soft' look. Like maybe a copy. The finish looks matte, not the shiny silver wash I would like to see.

                    The reverse is really scary. As mentioned, the usual four crimps are missing. How is the plate secured.... epoxy??? And the hinge and catch are impeccable. Just way too perfect. They are the right design and style, but they look brand new.

                    I wouldn't sleep well with that NKS. Keep looking.

                    Regards,
                    Mark



                    "You can check out any time you like ..... But you can never leave....."

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                      Originally posted by h009291
                      Is the backplate secure or loose?.
                      Darrell,
                      The backplate is not loose at all...

                      Originally posted by Tim Curley
                      I agree; the crimping I expect to see on R.S. CCCs is distinctive and quite different from what this badge shows. Additionally, the R.S. appears to be a bit larger than what I have encountered and the catch affixed differently.
                      Tim,
                      thanks for your imput. Thats why i posted this for comments. I was very unsure of the rear setup especially.

                      Originally posted by mmiller
                      The reverse is really scary. As mentioned, the usual four crimps are missing. How is the plate secured.... epoxy??? And the hinge and catch are impeccable. Just way too perfect. They are the right design and style, but they look brand new.
                      Mark,
                      thanks for your comments and pictures of your CCC as well. Are they any known original examples with a non crimped backplate?

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                        Hi Ron


                        I too do not like the reverse of this ccc nor the eagle. Furthermore, the ccc looks as if it was made yesterday. I would pass on this one. Good Luck.

                        Best Regards
                        Mike

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by h009291
                          Most unusual way that the backplate is attached on this R.S. Normally these are affixed by the metal being crimped into place on two points on each side.

                          Almost appears that it has been refinished. Looks pretty shiney in the one picture from the reverse at the angle.
                          My thoughts exactly, to be honest i don´t like that CCC!
                          Regards
                          Hans N

                          Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
                          I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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                            Hi Guys,


                            Difficult one but I wouldn't trough it in the bin to quick. If this is a fake then the same guys making this one also made this badge with the correct crimp. Doesn't make much sense does it, why mess things up if you know the correct way to crimp RS's.

                            Notice the dip visible on the reverse just in the center on the bottom of the back plate. This bade is for sale at T. Huss an was discussed before as being a possible refinish.
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                              And here is a bronze example I saved in my files as a possible variant crimp on RS CCC's. Looks very believable to me and although not very clear it also seems to feature that dip
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