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    #1

    OK, is this one good?

    i'm sorry but am learning anout PAB's

    greg
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    #2
    and the back

    greg
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      #3
      Hello Greg,

      There are a couple of things I don't like, the catch has an odd shaped plate beneath it, and the "machine gun" next to the main gun barrel looks like an oval disk instead of the normal protrusion seen on most badges. Close-ups would be helpful.
      Warren

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        #4
        Hi Greg,

        Yes, that's a good one, though the catch has been replaced or re-soldered on. Used to be called Steinhauer & Lück because one was found in a S&L marked packet, but in reality an unknown maker.

        Regards,
        Greg
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          #5
          The catch is also crimped in.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Greg Walden
            Hi Greg,

            Yes, that's a good one, though the catch has been replaced or re-soldered on. Used to be called Steinhauer & Lück because one was found in a S&L marked packet, but in reality an unknown maker.

            Regards,
            Greg
            Very nice PAB Greg, anyway i was under the impression that this is S&L PAB:<o =""></o>
            Last edited by robert60446; 04-07-2007, 06:32 AM.

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              Reverse...
              Last edited by robert60446; 04-07-2007, 06:32 AM.

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                #8
                Robert,

                Yes, that's the current line of thought ... with its many set-up variations (yours is a great one!).

                Greg
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                  #9
                  Gregory,
                  As Greg has said, it's a good one. It's a bit worn and that explains the coaxial mg port being worn down so much.

                  Greg,
                  Nice looking badge reguarless of who made it!

                  Chet
                  Zinc stinks!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Greg Walden
                    Robert,

                    Yes, that's the current line of thought ... with its many set-up variations (yours is a great one!).

                    Greg
                    Greg,
                    thanks for sharing your great collection with us, but your PAB from post#4 looks different to me then any other PAB from post #8 (or mine). The details on the eagle head and tank lights are the most obvious differences. I can tell from your pictures in post#8 that S&L boys were busy working with at least 2 different grass patterns. But your PAB from post#4 just doesn’t fit in this family in my opinion. Please don’t shoot the messenger...<o =""></o>

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by robert60446
                      Greg,
                      thanks for sharing your great collection with us, but your PAB from post#4 looks different to me then any other PAB from post #8 (or mine). The details on the eagle head and tank lights are the most obvious differences. I can tell from your pictures in post#8 that S&L boys were busy working with at least 2 different grass patterns. But your PAB from post#4 just doesn’t fit in this family in my opinion. Please don’t shoot the messenger...<O =""></O>
                      Hi Robert,

                      You're right, 4/5 is not in this family that based on Frank's/Philippe's research is now thought to be Steinhauer & Lück. The one Greg K showed first and the one in 4/5 used to be called Steinhauer & Lück, mainly because such a PAB was found in a S&L marked packet. Only circumstantial evidence, of course. The maker of 4/5 remains unknown (so far). See http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...Steinhauer+PAB

                      Best,
                      Greg
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chet Sowersby

                        Greg,
                        Nice looking badge reguarless of who made it!

                        Chet
                        Oh, you mean the one in 4/5? Yeah, don't you think so... quite nice!

                        Thanks,
                        Greg
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Greg Walden
                          Hi Robert,

                          You're right, 4/5 is not in this family that based on Frank's/Philippe's research is now thought to be Steinhauer & Lück. The one Greg K showed first and the one in 4/5 used to be called Steinhauer & Lück, mainly because such a PAB was found in a S&L marked packet. Only circumstantial evidence, of course. The maker of 4/5 remains unknown (so far). See http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...Steinhauer+PAB

                          Best,
                          Greg
                          Thanks for an extra explanation Greg!

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                            #14
                            wow!!

                            thanks so much for the feedbacks! you guys are great, Greg thanks so much for the info. i will be buying this PAB then thanks to you.

                            thanks alot all of you

                            greg

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                              #15
                              Hi Guys,


                              This indeed is a original oval crimp PAB by an unknown maker. The catch is not a repair but factory done. At a certain moment the crimping device must have failed (first for the catch and later for the hinge) and the hardware was soldered directly to the badge.

                              Greg if you receive this badge you will see that the finish on the catch is a perfect match to the rest of the badge.

                              KR
                              Philippe

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