Hi Everybody. I am looking for some opinions regarding authenticity of this Spanish Russian volunteers medal complete with miniature. The ribbon and suspension ring look post war. I don't think it is of German manufacture, so hoping it might be Spanish made.
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The full size medal is not a Deschler-made original, the ribbon is also post-war (note how the centre stripe is more lemon-yellow than golden-yellow and also the weft thread loops are missing on one side)
Can't comment on the miniature other than to say it's obviously Spanish-made.
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Thanks for the reply. I knew about the ribbon, but that isn't always the end of the world, so long as the award is original. It seems to be a tricky one as I have posted it on another forum and nobody could say whether it is genuine or not. Personally, I think it is one of the Spanish made awards as it does look very different to the Deschlers which are usually zinc and show the rivets on the helmet.Comment
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It’s not a deschler then it’s either a fake or one of those commemorative pieces,
It’s likely the medal is as old as the ribbon probably post 1980
I found one of these and my example has lost its finish
Here’s some original ribbon
Kind regards ChayLast edited by upbeek; 12-03-2019, 01:58 PM.Comment
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Here is some nicer ribbon but not from the original batchComment
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Thank you gentlemen. I read somewhere that although Deschler was the only German manufacturer of this award, production was also done by war time Spanish manufacturers. My example doesn't have the typical barrel shaped post war suspension ring which the above example displays. So who knows, is it fake or war time Spanish manufacture?Comment
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Hard to tell, the details are too fuzzyComment
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Indeed to blurred
The ribbon is identical I think,Comment
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On this link (in German) you will see that two further contracts were awarded to companies other than Deschler. Unfortunately, they are not named and how can we prove the validity of anything on Wikipedia
https://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Erinne..._BolschewismusComment
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I think you may have to buy a morigi and do some detailed photos the photos on this thread are very blurred
Either way it’s not a deschler and has modern ribbon.
Kind regards ChayComment
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The lack of ribbon authenticity was never in doubt (including the ribbon suspension ring) as stated in my first post. I was more concerened about the medal itself being authentic or notComment
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Indeed
I found another piece of period deschler ribbon attached to a nice wmc
Kind regards ChayComment
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just done a bit of analysis on the Morgi fake and found that that example has what appears to be one rivet above the helmet shield (mine doesn't) and the squares under the morgi helmet are noticibly thinner than my exampleComment
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Nice work!
That rules the morigi out then
Have you had a really close look with a clear enlarged photo to check for casting evidence?
Kind regards ChayComment
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