Italian medal bar

[Yubari]

Thank you for your opinions!

[Ian Hulley]

The device on the Italian War Merit Cross has been discussed before and shown to not belong there.

Ian

[Yubari]

The device on the Italian War Merit Cross has been discussed before and shown to not belong there.

Ian

it was used before ww2 and occassionally added even during ww2, or do I miss smthg

[Yubari]

[Ian Hulley]

You asked for opinions … I gave mine from memory of another bar discussed here … and now you argue that opinion.

[Yubari]

You asked for opinions … I gave mine from memory of another bar discussed here … and now you argue that opinion.

it is called a discussion

[wrongplanet67]

The device on the Italian War Merit Cross has been discussed before and shown to not belong there.

Ian

Hi Ian,

Do you know the official name of this device?

[Edward 1970]

Hi! In my opinion, the medal bar is original. On all external signs completely corresponds to the period of his time.

[Yubari]

Hi Ian,

Do you know the official name of this device?

Device is called "FERT" and was given for junior acts of bravery if recipent was not eligible for al valore medal but still faced an enemy and did something brave.

Swords were given where applicable until 1943.

[Yubari]

I ordered trhe medal bar but I received just a notification that I need to be informed if it is available. Now after bit of promoting here it is RESERVED for somebody else. I think I will never understand how Weitze runs his business. Crazy customer experience again. I wanted to examine the bar and eventually add to my upcoming publication about ww2 medal bars - if everything turns good. Guys, if you ordered based on my thread here...

[sniper11]

I ordered trhe medal bar but I received just a notification that I need to be informed if it is available. Now after bit of promoting here it is RESERVED for somebody else. I think I will never understand how Weitze runs his business. Crazy customer experience again. I wanted to examine the bar and eventually add to my upcoming publication about ww2 medal bars - if everything turns good. Guys, if you ordered based on my thread here...

I have only bought one item from Weitze. I find his customer service poor in comparison to many other reputable internet militaria sites .Disappointing you didn't secure the medal bar but at least you haven't had your pants pulled down by his overpriced items.

Troy

[RonR]

Italian ribbon bar with the Gladius Sword Fert clasp........


...........

[Yubari]

I have only bought one item from Weitze. I find his customer service poor in comparison to many other reputable internet militaria sites .Disappointing you didn't secure the medal bar but at least you haven't had your pants pulled down by his overpriced items.

Troy

You know I ordered item but it remained available as I received information that they need to let me know first, if the item is available.
It stayed available next 12 hours and then it became Reserved for somebody else. Worth to say I spent few thousands euros past few months, yet still "I was not first."

Josef

[grigioverde]

I believe that everyone here is partially right. The sword on the Ethiopian campaign medal is exactly right. There are actually 2 different ww1 war crosses with the same ribbon pattern and the same shape. One is the War Merit cross, the other is the War Cross of Military Valor. The first is slightly higher award and has no sword, the second has a sword on the ribbon to distinguish it from the first. The writing on the obverse is different. 1. Croche al Merito di Guerra. 2. Croche di Guerra al Valore Militare. This is not to be confused with the much higher award of the Al Valore Militare in gold, silver and bronze.

[Gardereiter]

I just got finished reading this thread and I am still confused about the "FERT" Gladius sword device.

Does this device signify an act of bravery on the Italian War Merit Cross ribbon (award in position 2 on the medal bar in post 1) when the recipient did not quite meet the qualifications for the full-blown Italian Bravery Medal? Or am I reading this incorrectly?