Wehrmacht 40 year Ribbon Bar etc

[Ian Hulley]

Could I have opinions on these 2 bars please ..

Bar 1





WH 40 year device ..



Bar 2





The crown and hole where the NSDAP 10 year device once was ..



Are these identifiable at all ? All opinions welcomed.

Many thanks, Ian.

[Tom Yanacek]

Hi Ian,

The first bar is rather interesting. I like it until I get to that 40-Year Wehrmacht Long Service and then the red flag goes up. If the 40-Year Long Service is legit, then why is the Wehrmacht 12-Year Long Service not present on this bar? Also, since there is no EK2 equivalent from another Imperial State, I would assume this is a bar to a Prussian. As such I would almost expect to see the ribbon for the Kaiser Wilhelm I Centenary Medal to be present in conjunction with the Wehrmacht 40/12 LS combination. I think what you have here is an original ribbon bar that was messed with. I think it originally had a plain blue ribbon at the end, most likely a Prussian Long Service Decoration, and someone went and added the eagle and oakleaves devices.

The second ribbon bar is a postwar, made up bar in my opinion. I don't like the crown on the EK ribbon (or is that supposed to represent a Hohenzollern House Order)? And if it is a Hohenzollern House Order, then where is the EK2? And why is the Sudetenland Annexation placed between the NSDAP 10-Year and the Wehrmacht 4-Year? And why, of all things, is the ribbon for the Baden Military Karl-Friedrich Merit Order/Medal last on this bar? It should be second. The order of precedence is way too messed up on this bar.

Sorry I can't have a more favorable opinion on these bars, Ian.

Best regards,
Tom

[Ian Hulley]

Sorry I can't have a more favorable opinion on these bars, Ian.

Hi Tom, many thanks for your views, I'm hoping they will be heading back from whence they came.

Cheers, Ian.

[Tom Yanacek]

I'm hoping they will be heading back from whence they came.

Hi Ian,

Yes! I hope you are able to return these. It also looks to me like the second ribbon bar was glued together- ribbons to the backplate and backing cloth to the ribbons. And it looks like there are several spots of glue residue on the front.

Best regards,
Tom