East Medal with packet

[Tom Yanacek]

Hi guys,

I bought this packeted East Medal yesterday at a small military show. I really like it because of the large-size packet, which is seldom encountered with East Medals. The packet is marked to Grossmann & Company of Vienna. I believe the medal is a match to the packet, although I am not certain as there is no maker marking on the ring.

Best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

Here is a better look at the medal:

I like the overall, faded appearance of this medal. I still think it has a decent look and even though the silvering to the rim and helmet has faded, it is still there. Nice detail on this one too.

[Tom Yanacek]

packet designation and maker marking:

[Stepdale]

Very nice one Tom! I especially like the packet.

[Antonio Scapini]

Hi Tom, very nice set, but IMO the medal doesn't look a Grossmann Ost.

[Tom Yanacek]

Thanks for the comments, Dale and Antonio.

This medal and packet gives me the impression of having been together since the day it was made. Of course I can't prove that and who's to say what exactly happened to this medal and packet over the course of 70+ years. Doing a search, I found only one thread showing a Grossmann '11' marked Ost Medal.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...edal+Grossmann

I wish the pictures were larger, but I see a lot of similarities between the marked Grossmann shown in the linked thread and my unmarked example.

Best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

Here are the two pictures of the Grossmann Ost Medal from the thread linked in my previous posting.

If anyone has a Grossmann, '11' marked Ost Medal I would surely like to see some large and clear pictures of the front and reverse for comparison purposes.

Thank you & best regards,
Tom

[Stepdale]

Tom,
Below is a link to the only one I could find in a quick google search. It looks the same as yours but my old eyes aren't the best at comparing small details.
Dale

http://www.militaria-depot.de/ostmed...e=militaria_de

[Tom Yanacek]

Thanks, Dale.

After doing a side by side comparison I am still unsure. I wish the picture of the front was a bit clearer.

Thanks again & best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

reverse:

[RKC]

Tom:

Your "Ostmedaille" is definitely not a "Grossmann" piece!

You have a piece by "Otto Zappe" out of Gablonz.
Maker's authorized code is '110' when he uses it.

There are more than a few differences between the
'Grossmann' piece & your 'Otto Zappe' but I'll only
cover a couple of them to save time.

The wording on the reverse of the medal -
"WINTERSCHLACHT" is not the same on the
'Grossmann' piece as found on the 'Otto Zappe' piece.

The date '1941 / 42' is also different on a 'Grossmann'
piece than what is found on the 'Otto Zappe' piece.

Your 'Otto Zappe' medal has a "larger 2" in the date
which is actually larger than the other numerals in
that date on that medal.

For the other differences I'll let you research them out
- See Sascha Weber's book - "Die Medaille Winterschlacht
im Osten 1941/42 (Ostmedaille)'.


Ron.

[Tom Yanacek]

Thank you!

Thanks for the info, Ron.

Best regards,
Tom

[Gruzd]

Hi guys,

I bought this packeted East Medal yesterday at a small military show. I really like it because of the large-size packet, which is seldom encountered with East Medals. The packet is marked to Grossmann & Company of Vienna. I believe the medal is a match to the packet, although I am not certain as there is no maker marking on the ring.

Best regards,
Tom

Hi, Tom.

You show good Grossman & Co. medal. It's one marked "11" from my collection.https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...hint=folder%2c

Best regards, Vladimir.

[Tom Yanacek]

Hi, Tom.

You show good Grossman & Co. medal. It's one marked "11" from my collection.https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...hint=folder%2c

Best regards, Vladimir.

Thank you, Vladimir.

Best regards,
Tom