Dienstauszeichnung IV. Klasse in Cellophane

[Stormfighter]

I bought this Dienstauszeichnung IV. Klasse mit Hoheitsabzeichen (IVth Class Service Medal with [Metal Eagle] Attachment) from the daughter of a World war II veteran. The medal is wrapped in some type of paper and is sealed in its original cellophane wrapper. I assume the maker is O.S.P. (does anyone know what this stands for?). The medal either has a Army or Air Force eagle to attach to the ribbon I'm assuming. I am also interested in the value of this medal. Thanks!

Barry

[Tom Yanacek]

I assume the maker is O.S.P. (does anyone know what this stands for?).

Hello Barry,

That is Otto Schickle, Pforzheim. Very nice!

Best regards,
Tom

[Antonio Scapini]

Hello Barry,

That is Otto Schickle, Pforzheim. Very nice!

Best regards,
Tom

I agree with Tom! A nice Schickle packet!

[Tom Yanacek]

Here is a 12-Year Luftwaffe Long Service Decoration by Otto Schickle:

[Stormfighter]

Thanks a lot for the quick responses!

Barry

[Gary B]

Does not get any better than that. I am assuming the packet is unopened? I dont beleive I have ever seen one that was not opened.

Gary B

[Stormfighter]

Does not get any better than that. I am assuming the packet is unopened? I dont beleive I have ever seen one that was not opened.

Gary B

Gary,

Correct, the packet has never been opened. Not that I would do it, but I imagine it could be steamed open like a sealed envelope?

Is there anyway to tell what Hoheitsabzeichen would be on the ribbon - Heer or Luftwaffe? You would think the packet would be marked with the the branch of service. Can anyone shed any light on why it was not specified?

Barry

[Tom Yanacek]

Is there anyway to tell what Hoheitsabzeichen would be on the ribbon - Heer or Luftwaffe? You would think the packet would be marked with the the branch of service. Can anyone shed any light on why it was not specified?

Hi Barry,

This is only speculation on my part so take it for what it's worth.

Here is a picture from page #50 of Angolia's book, For Führer and Fatherland: Military Awards of the Third Reich. Notice that this is for a IV. Class Long Service Medal and also notice that the packet is marked to Otto Schickle of Pforzheim. I used to own a Long Service Medal and packet that was identical to the one pictured in Angolia. The medal was untouched, although the top of the packet was slit. The medal was wrapped in tissue and the eagle device was separately wrapped in tissue. There was a long piece of ribbon inside and the eagle device was not attached to the ribbon. The eagle was the type for Heer/Kriegsmarine.

I have a feeling that Otto Schickle used the packet like you have for Luftwaffe Long Service Decorations and the type like what is shown in Angolia was used for Heer/Kriegsmarine.

Best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

May I suggest that you post this packet in the 'Cases and Packets' part of the forum. Maybe someone there will have a better idea about these packets.

Best regards,
Tom

[Gary B]

Hi Barry,

Thanks for the response. Whatever you do do not try to steam or open it someway. As I said before these LS award packets are rare and I have NEVER seen one that was unopened.

You might be able to gently "feel" the device to see if it is a Luft or heer eagle but I would advise against this unless done very lightly since the packet is very fragile and will crack.

Thanks to you and Tom for showing these. It is a nice piece that is missing from my collection.

Gary B

[RonR]

I believe that Tom may be correct that this type may be for the Luftwaffe LS Medals.

This one is open, but I have never unwrapped the medal or device, but it can be clearly seen that the eagle is a Luftwaffe eagle.....


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[RonR]

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[Tom Yanacek]

I believe that Tom may be correct that this type may be for the Luftwaffe LS Medals.

This one is open, but I have never unwrapped the medal or device, but it can be clearly seen that the eagle is a Luftwaffe eagle.....


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Hi Ron,

Thank you for posting that fine example you have. So far my theory is holding up, but I wonder for how much longer?

Best regards,
Tom

PS: My other theory is that there is nothing in TR militaria that you don't have.

[Antonio Scapini]

...PS: My other theory is that there is nothing in TR militaria that you don't have.

That's my theory too Tom!

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Just love these awards in there bag.

Here is mine also complete with wrappings. And the mini ofcourse