Two Badge IDs please

[Darrell]

Hi all.

I've seen the below badges a few times on different Luftwaffe personnel.

The first Badge appears to be the same one on both pics but worn above the medal bar on Muller and just above the EK 1 on Joswig. Take a look below:

Muller:


Joswig:


The second badge worn by Thiel is above his EK1.

Thiel:


Anyone know what the badges are, who made them (German or other nation) and what they were awarded for? Thanks.

[kokstok]

I think it is a pilots badge from romania or bulgaria. (other members correct me if i am wrong)

gr. René.

[Darrell]

I think it is a pilots badge from romania or bulgaria. (other members correct me if i am wrong)

gr. René.

I think I found them. Did a little Yahoo searching and appears to be these two below:

The first Badge is an Italian Pilots Badge:


The Second being a Hungarian "Honorary" PIlots Badge: