My Deumer salesman boards/G.I Souviner. 1 x Full size 1 x Mini awards. Help needed.

[Joe Mc]

On my miniature board, what are numbers 9, 10 and 12 please?

What's the total value for the complete board?

I'm struggling to find any of some of the medals for sale to even judge market value!

If anybody can show me a mini RAD 4 year, mini 1st Okt, mini wehrmacht 12 year, mini olimpic and mini China medal for sale, or even sold ill be forever in your debt!

[Tom Yanacek]

hello
i have see many of this boards, and always the volspflege medal is with a 13 mars 38 ruban or other ! strange! no stock of this ruban ?
best regards
patrick

Hello Patrick,

I have actually seen a couple boards where they did use the correct ribbon for the Social Welfare Medal. But, as you say, most of the time the Austrian Annexation ribbon was used. I also remember seeing a board where they used cornflower blue long service ribbon to mount the Social Welfare Medal. I think that whenever possible, they tried to use a correct or, at least, similar-looking ribbon when putting these boards together. But Deumer was a metal goods producer, not a ribbon manufacturer, so they probably just didn't have a stockpile of the correct ribbons in some cases. In such cases, I suppose they would just use whatever scraps they had available.

Here is another example of a Deumer Social Welfare Medal, mounted with a ribbon for the Austrian Annexation Medal and still attached to a fragment of a display board. To the right is the Westwall Medal from my display board. At first glance, it might look like a correct ribbon for the Westwall Medal. But it is actually a miniature ribbon for the Lifesaving Medal.

Best regards,
Tom

[Joe Mc]

I've just checked and the mini 1st Okt medal is also marked L/11 on the rim too.

[Tom Yanacek]

On my miniature board, what are numbers 9, 10 and 12 please?

Hi Joe,

#9 is a Wehrmacht eagle device, which would be attached to the blue ribbon of the long service decorations. Since the eagle is gold in color, it was for use with either the 12-Year Long Service Medal and/or the 25-Year Long Service Cross. And since the eagle is straight-winged, it is for Heer or Kriegsmarine use.

#10 is a miniature of the Imperial Naval Wound Badge in black.

#12 is a miniature insignia for the police.

Best regards,
Tom

[Joe Mc]

Hi Tom,

Many thanks indeed!

I prefer this set than my full size one, because of the mixture or imperial and T.R.

Atb,

Joe

Hi Joe,

#9 is a Wehrmacht eagle device, which would be attached to the blue ribbon of the long service decorations. Since the eagle is gold in color, it was for use with either the 12-Year Long Service Medal and/or the 25-Year Long Service Cross. And since the eagle is straight-winged, it is for Heer or Kriegsmarine use.

#10 is a miniature of the Imperial Naval Wound Badge in black.

#12 is a miniature insignia for the police.

Best regards,
Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

I prefer this set than my full size one, because of the mixture or imperial and T.R.

Hi Joe,

I think your board of miniatures is really nice too. I can't remember seeing many Deumer boards with miniatures, so that might be a pretty scarce thing. Sorry that I can't help with the value, though, as I am not up on the price of miniatures.

Best regards,
Tom

[Antonio Scapini]

On the rim of the medal, at the six o'clock position, the medal is marked with Deumer's LdO number:

Thanks Tom, I asked just to confirm what I saw in other Deumers medals!

[Thomas Bendixen]

Hi Ron, I would love to see a closeup of your Minerescue medal.

kr, Thomas

[Thomas Durante]

Great thread guys, love seeing these souvenier boards.

Van, are you sure the IAB you show came off one of these boards? As far as I know, these are considered fakes, a takeoff on the "4-rivet" IAB design. This type can be found with many different reverse setups and with fake maker marks, made of high quality base metals, etc. and are considered to all be post war fakes as far as I know.

Thanks

Tom

[RonR]

Hi Ron, I would love to see a closeup of your Minerescue medal.

kr, Thomas

Thomas,

Glad to oblige.......



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[Thomas Bendixen]

Thanks Ron for posting the IMO controversial Minerescue medal. Its interesting to see it on your board in what I belliewe is unfinished condition. Seeing it makes me think that I might be wrong in thinking its a fake, but as allways these boards opens more questions than hey answer. First of all buntmetal production declined around 1942, so how does an unfinished buntmetal piece end up on a latewar board?

Cheers Thomas

[Tom Yanacek]

Thanks Ron for posting the IMO controversial Minerescue medal. Its interesting to see it on your board in what I belliewe is unfinished condition. Seeing it makes me think that I might be wrong in thinking its a fake, but as allways these boards opens more questions than hey answer. First of all buntmetal production declined around 1942, so how does an unfinished buntmetal piece end up on a latewar board?

Cheers Thomas

Hello Thomas,

I don't think it is that unusual for a tombak piece to end up on an end-of-war Deumer display board. Maybe this piece was a factory reject and that is why it never received its silver finish or suspension ring. I would suspect that a factory had piles and piles of widgets such as this, that sat around for years. Recycling wasn't in widespread use, but they didn't throw things away either. There probably wasn't much of a need for Mine Rescue Medals during wartime, so maybe production was halted and the pieces never left the factory. It is conceivable that when the war ended, and Deumer was looking to supply the occupation troops' market with their wares, they would make use of whatever they had stockpiled in their factory. This would include remaining production stock, unfinished/damaged stock, and stuff from the reject bins. Much of the stuff we find on these boards is mid- to late-war production stock, but there are definitely some earlier pieces found in the mix.

Best regards,
Tom

[Thomas Bendixen]

Thanks for the input Tom, these riddles is one of the many apects that makes this hobby so interesting!

Kr, Thomas

[helmetbuyers]

here is the board I had a couple years ago. I should have kept it. Robert

[Tom Yanacek]

here is the board I had a couple years ago. I should have kept it. Robert

Hello Robert,

Very nice display board. I remember seeing it at the MAX Show a couple of years ago. I actually came close to buying that board from you.

Best regards,
Tom