Memel medal issue packet (for tyanacek....Tom)

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I've hunted high and low for another version of this, only to find the common 'brown' fake packets.

I've approached 'advanced' collectors and dealers and they don't know ! All I can say is as of yet there has been no positive claim to a similar one being seen.

I'll keep the dimensions of the packet, if you wish to know them PM me please.

There was once Tom some discussion on the fact it says Anschluss, when technicaly it is not an Anschluss medal ! Of the various 'Flower Wars' packets I have some with documentation from the family, they all come in the plain paper packets. It's also intersting to note on packets where the soldier has been killed, there is often a signature and date on the packet.

This packet has been 'age' tested twice by different methods, I'm not 101% conversant with the pro's and con's but it can be dated within 5 years accurately...so I'm told.

What does that conclude.....the paper is old or that it's a genuine late 30's stamp collectors packet ....it could well be !!!

Tom I've seen your posts, you have knowledge on packets I'd respect your opinion.


Kind regards,

Marcus



Tom the packet looks beige in this light, but the packet is a washy white grey, it looks faded to an extent and it's true colour that was, not evident.

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Of course any comments are welcome, not just by Tom. I posted these pic's in response to a request by Tom.

Kind regards,

Marcus

[Tom Yanacek]

Hello Marcus,

Thank you for posting the pictures of the Memel Medal packet. I have never seen one before, so I was very curious when you said that you had one. I honestly don't know what to think of it so I wouldn't give too much weight to my comments about this packet. As you already stated, original issue envelopes for Occupation Medals were usually unmarked except for the manufacturers markings. Occupation Medals in envelopes were usually unmounted. The medal was wrapped in tissue, and a length of ribbon was placed in the envelope but unattached to the medal. Pin mounted Occupation Medals were usually awarded in the issue cases.
I also think that the medal designation on the front, "Memel Anschluss Medaille", is unusual. I thought that Anschluss was only used in connection with the annexation of Austria, and even in that instance the medal was never referred to as "Anschluss Medaille". I could be wrong about this though.
The color of that envelope troubles me. I have seen this same color envelope (dirty, grayish-white), also marked to Josef Feix Söhne, put together with fake 'JFS' General Assault Badges. I have never liked those badges, nor the envelopes that I have seen with them. I would also like to hear comments from others about this envelope. Thanks again for posting this, Marcus.
Best regards! Tom

[stogieman]

However....

The ink-stamped maker mark is consistent with (accepted) original marks on the backs of Krim Shields....

[Tom Yanacek]

The ink-stamped maker mark is consistent with (accepted) original marks on the backs of Krim Shields....

Hello Rick,
Please do elaborate on this. Are you saying that the 'JFS' markings, inside the elipse, have been found on the paper backings of Krim Shields, or are you talking about an issue packet for the Krim Shield? Please post a picture or two if you can. I have also seen the same maker markings on issue envelopes for the Infantry Assault Badge, and the Russian Front Medal. The Infantry Assault envelopes were beige, the Russian Front envelopes were blue. Do you think that the Memel Medal envelope posted by Marcus is original? As I said before, I have never seen one of these so I really don't know what to think. It might very well be real. I would like to hear your opinion.
Thank you and best regards! Tom

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Marcus

Isn't there some provenance to that packet?

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Hi George,



Yes there is, I think Tom is already aware of where it came from and I also have had a couple of tests conducted on the packet to determine the age of the paper within five years !


Tom,

Ricks talking about the paper backing on the shields, I've seen this too. Frank H I know has an example and we compared the two when I was over in Germany. The two matched perfectly.

Kind regards,

Marcus

[Pascal H.]

The ink-stamped maker mark is consistent with (accepted) original marks on the backs of Krim Shields....

I would also be very interested in some pictures of Krim shields with these marking as I have never seen a Krim shield with this marking.
I think however that Rick means not Krim shields but Demjansk shields with this JFS marking. There are original Demjansk shields with this JFS marking on the back.

KR
Pascal

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Hey Pascal,

I believe it was a Demjansk Do you have a picture please of one ?

Kr

Marcus

[Pascal H.]

Hey Pascal,

I believe it was a Demjansk Do you have a picture please of one ?

Kr

Marcus

Sure Marcus. Here is a picture of Claudio's marked JFS Demjansk shield.

KR
Pascal