As medals are not my area First if any one sees any authenticity issues and second would this medal bar would be correct for a high ranking Artillery officer waffenrock (Major) that I have. In my limited research I believe it would be but not sure about the 6 year Bavarian army medal. Also the loops on the waffenrock extend over the buttons. Would it be appropriate for the medal bar when hung for the medals to cover the button? Or is this last loop for a Ribbon bar only and not meant for the parade mount? Also if I go with this parade bar the waffenrock has three badge loops would it be correct to use an EK2 in one? As the bar has the EK1. The other two I would go with are a GAB and Wound badge. I would appreciate you medal collectors opinions.
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I seriously doubt this medal bar would be worn on an Army Artillery uniform.
Medal bars can cover the buttons on tunics- I am thinking of bars that are very long, same with ribbon bars.
This is the medal bar of a civil servant/NSDAP member, formally an enlisted man or NCO.
Regarding the medal bar- it appears to be in very good condition. Are the ribbons as "clean" looking as in the photo?
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Well a browse through the waffenrock book shows several pictures of large medal bars in wear with the medals covering up the buttons.Comment
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Many thanks I did not realize the last medal was civilian-The hunt continues – anyone see a bar this size this size that would be appropriate for this waffenrock drop me a PM please.
Originally posted by luftkreig View PostComment
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Isn't the order of awards on this bar strange ?Comment
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I don’t own this bar I was only considering a purchase. I have decided to put the Artillery back in storage and go with a display of one of my other officer waffenrocks as the medal bar for this is going to be a tuff and expensive find.Comment
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I concour that this bar is for a civil official who was doing something for the war effort (kvk2) and all medals appear in order.Comment
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KVK between Frontkämpfer and NSDAP ?Originally posted by luftkreig View PostWhat seems out of place?
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Originally posted by der-hase-fee View Post
There is nothing between the Honour Cross (Frontkämpfer) and the NSDAP Decoration as they are beside one another.
The KVK (War Merit Cross) is in second place where it should be. It ranks next to the Iron Cross at all times.
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Put it on
This would be a little unusual on an artillery Majors' uniform, but not impossible. The man was not a regular army officer obviously, but considering the German army officer corps went from 3,600 individuals to @ 350,000 men in @ 9 years -well, nothing was impossible.
The story the bar (1940-1945) "tells" is WW1 vet., almost certainly from Brunswick, who either re-enlisted and went "regular' in 1919-21 (and had enlisted as a war volunteer) or was in regular just before the war to get his LS medal. These were given by statute to enlisted men, but I have seen a couple of odd demiliterization Militarpasses where LtdRs and Officer Stellvetreters were given them as "goodbye" awards in 1921. The Reichsheer was finally reduced from 400,000 men to 100,000 in 1921-1922 and the Allied military commision oversaw the demobilization......but only the Bavarians seem to have got their state medal and sometimes they got the Prussian/"imperial" one instead.
It is quite possible this chap was a Fahnrich/LtdR somewhere between 1908-14 and then either went regular officer or got bumped in as as a LtdR.- HdR during the war....and artillery makes sense as it required an education (math) and was rear eschelon.
The KVKx means he was in unform in WW2 in a support role (artillery?) and the state medal was awarded for service in any state jobs. It is quite possible he was a teacher....and yes, war time counted double for the state LS.
It's mentioned in Frankfurt newspapers.
There are all sorts of photos of oversized bars being worn by recalled officers.Comment
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The NSDAP award should be mounted after the Treudienst award.Originally posted by luftkreig View PostWhat seems out of place?
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There seemed to be some period confusion regarding this probably as both were for long service. There are many original examples posted in the thread below of the NSDAP Decoration mounted before and after the Faithful Service Decoration.Originally posted by J C Gray View Post
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=393789
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Okay, you got me curious.Originally posted by luftkreig View Post
Before:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...7&postcount=65
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...0&postcount=69
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=70
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...6&postcount=75
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...6&postcount=80
From another thread: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...&postcount=237
After:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...8&postcount=81
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Originally posted by der-hase-fee View Post
Curious about what though?
Those links all lead to what look like period originals to me. For the last 2 years I have been privately collecting photos of NSDAP medal & ribbon bars and 9/10 times the Faithful Service Decoration is mounted AFTER the NSDAP Decoration. These, of course, are just my findings from a small collection of maybe 120 photos.
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