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    #16
    Ron where did you pull this excerpt from?



    Kenneth

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      #17
      Originally posted by kenneth wolfe View Post
      Ron where did you pull this excerpt from?



      Kenneth
      Military Advisor...Volume 8, Number 3...Summer 1997....page 10.

      Article by Gordon Williamson.

      Best regards,
      RonR

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        #18
        Romanian anti-communism award

        The medal that I initially posted in this thread weighs .7 ounce (20 grams). I used a postal scale to get this weight. In hand, it has a very heavy feel to it.
        In my opinion, it has extremely nice details and appearance.

        Thanks again for the opinions and help,
        Randy
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          #19
          Gordon did a lot-if almost all of the decent research-on the LDo and makers' marks assigned by the OrdensChancellory etc. . He cleared up a LOT of misconceptions-including some things that were muddied by Kleitman ----and others who were floundering in the 1960s and 1970s.
          For more information on Crusade medals-look in the archives. There some fantastic threads therein, esp. ones from @ 2001/2002.

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            #20
            Oh- and DMV- My guess is that your medal is a superbly made 1957 version.

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              #21
              Hi McCulloh,

              My guess is that your medal is a superbly made 1957 version.
              1957 versions are German decorations.

              How could there be a foreign 1957 version?

              With the stamp L/58 it should be an Austrian (Souval) copy.

              Uwe

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                #22
                Hmmmmm...splitting hairs a bit close there aren't we?
                Still, as a lawyer, I commend your close reading of the text.
                To whit thereunto-......"1957 version"= "post war version".
                Klar?

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                  #23
                  Hi McCulloh,

                  where do you see here splitting hairs?

                  "1957 version"= "post war version". Klar?
                  "post war version" = "1957 version" ???

                  Not "Klar", just the contrary.

                  These are pictures of the 1957 versions:

                  http://www.ordensmuseum.de/Ordensjou...6Jan0857er.pdf

                  Uwe

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                    #24
                    =sigh=
                    If it was made post war for ostensive use by vets-then its a 1957 version in my mind.
                    As I said Souval we know made them-and Kleitman may have also- as they were for sale in the Frontsoldat ads from 1958 ("Neue Typ").

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ommunism+medal
                    Last edited by McCulloh; 08-16-2011, 08:55 PM. Reason: add link

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                      #25
                      Please, have a look on the document I presented with my link.

                      1957 versions are German decorations, recognizable in a different design to the original German awards.

                      Foreign decorations and German decorations without a change of the design can never be 1957 versions.

                      Uwe

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