2 ribbon bars for review

[andya]

Hi
These are really not my thing and i would appreciate some help with these. I suppose my main question is do you think they are ok?
Let me know if you want more pics
many thanks in advance
andy

[Valter Gorenc]

I don't like them - especially not the lower one. EK2 devices seem off-centered and the order of precedence on 5-bar is wrong (KVK should be second place). And some expert say that too many swords and other devices can be a sign fo forgers - to attract more attention.