BlutOrden Info Needed

[robinhan]

I am looking for advise on how to obtain information on the career of an SA man who was awarded blood order # 1083.
He was:

August Steinhardt
Blood Order # 1083
SA Freising
16 Hundershaft

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how and where to do research on this person. Thank you.

[Erich B.]

Info

I've had success having Robert McDivitt research Blood Order winners for me-- his e-mail is:
rmcdivittjr@yahoo.com
Nice piece--first style Blood Orders are beautiful and grossly undervalued, IMO.
Erich

[robinhan]

Thank you for that info. I am familiar with Mr. MrDivitt's fine work. I was hoping to learn more about how to do at least the beginnings of SA personel history reasearch on my own. If anyone knows of books, library, or computer sources for this type of info, I would like to hear about it.
Regards.

[Erich B.]

There are a few books and on-line references listing a bit of information about many of the SA high leaders, but nothing I've found on the lower ranks other than in archives in the US and Europe. I've got a large library of original books and newspapers, so occasionally I can find information on individuals, but it's hit or miss.
Erich

Thank you for that info. I am familiar with Mr. MrDivitt's fine work. I was hoping to learn more about how to do at least the beginnings of SA personel history reasearch on my own. If anyone knows of books, library, or computer sources for this type of info, I would like to hear about it.
Regards.

[robinhan]

Thank you for sharing your experience in research on SA personel. Could you or anyone give advise on which reference book is best for explaining the details of the blood order award, the detailed history behind it and perhaps something on the people receiving it?

[McCulloh]

Do a search under Patzwall or Blood Order or Blutorden. There is a book for 1st issues and Rick Lundstrom discussed it on the political badges forum @2 months ago.
There is some sort of SA Diestaltelist from @1933/34 at the U. of Michigan in the Special collections area. I am trying to get copies.
For the rest you need his NSDAP number and then do to the National archives in DC and look up his party card/file.

[robinhan]

It seems like very good advice to try to obtain the SA member number as a first step in research for his career info. Are there places on the net or to write to that would be able to provide the SA number from a name or Blood Order #?

August Steinhardt
Blood Order # 1083
SA Freising
16 Hundershaft

[Bill D.]

The files of members of the SA and NSDAP are in the National Archives in College Park, Maryland.

They are filed alphabetically, so you don't need the SA number.

[robinhan]

Thank you so much for that great research source. I will try to go through
their procedures and write to them for a career file.

[McCulloh]

The files of members of the SA and NSDAP are in the National Archives in College Park, Maryland.

They are filed alphabetically, so you don't need the SA number.

Unless, like me, on was trying to look up one "Max Muller" and got 127 "Max Mullers" when I went to go do research-hence the party number.

[robinhan]

I am having trouble understanding the natiional archives website. Is there a form or procedure I can do to request a copy of the career file of an SA man? Or does any research have to be done by an approved research person?

Thanks,

[Bill D.]

From the National Archives website:

Captured German and Related Records on Microform in the National Archives

The National Archives holds over 70,000 rolls of microfilm reproducing captured German and related records, as described below. Reference copies of the microfilm may be viewed free of charge in the Microfilm Reading Room, National Archives at College Park, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD 20740-6001 (Phone: (301) 713-6785; FAX: 301-837-0483.) Self-service copies from microfilm can also be made in the reading room for $0.30 each.

RESEARCH HOURS: 8:45 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday and Wednesday
8:45 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Tuesday, Thursday and Friday
8:45 a.m. to 4:45 p.m. Saturday

National Archives Microfilm Publications are not available via inter-library loan, but specific rolls or entire series, except those containing privileged material ("R" rolls), may be purchased at the current price of $34.00 (domestic) or $39.00 (international) per roll by contacting:

National Archives Trust Fund
P.O. Box 100793
Atlanta, GA 30384-0793
Toll-free: (1-800) 234-8861
FAX: (301) 837-0483
Voice: (301) 837-2000

For more detailed reference information concerning the records, please write to: Modern Military Records (NWCTM), Room 2400, National Archives at College Park, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD 20740-6001. Phone: (301) 837-3510, FAX: 301-837-1752, or via
electronic mail to: inquire@nara.gov

A history of the American and Allied, public and private projects in which these records were created or assembled, exploited, described and microfilmed can be found in: Robert Wolfe, ed., Captured German and Related Records, A National Archives Conference (Athens, Ohio: Ohio University Press, 1974) 279 pp. [ISBN 8214-0172-6] [LC 74-82495].

[Bill D.]

From the information that I pasted above, it looks as though you do have to have someone go in and pull the file and copy it for you. The archives is very limited in personnel, so I can understand that they cannot do it for the public themselves.

It may be that you can buy a copy of the roll of microfilm on which the personnel file would be located.

I suggest that you try calling some of the telephone numbers listed above, to see if you can do that.

[der-hase-fee]

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