Can the Fakers be useful ?

[Paul Massucci]

A strange question right but bear with me for a minute,I've had this fake Young Cossack School Badge for a few years , it's a cast copy that I picked up in a lot of several items. But what is interesting about it is solid backed and has marks representing rivets. All the reference material I've come across says the original was hollow backed stamped metal.In Detlev catologue he goes as far as saying that so far originals found have only been stamped metal. So my question is that the fakers most likely used an original to make the casts from but their original was a 2 piece version with rivets holding the swords and eagle on to the wreath. So does this give any evidence that a second version actually existed?
Just something to think about on a lazy Sunday afternoon, what do you guys think?

Cast copy

[Paul Massucci]

pics of original stamped hollow back from Bender's For Fuhrer and Fatherland

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Paul,

An intelligent and very interesting thought!

[Gaspare]

PM. ,yes a interesting theory!..I have seen what claimed to be a original of the stamped kind in E. Europe. It belonged to a vet and was not for sale..
I have also seen near perfect reproduced examples of this pinback AND the type with the 2 loops in the back. It was explained to me that some postwar copies were made with the original tooling. After seeing the badges it has all but turned me off on ever aquiring one that I would be happy with.{ unless I can talk that vet. out of his! }. .
Would love to see a original 2 piece badge!!! , thanks , G.

[Lorenzo Brown]

So my question is that the fakers most likely used an original to make the casts from but their original was a 2 piece version with rivets holding the swords and eagle on to the wreath. So does this give any evidence that a second version actually existed?
Just something to think about on a lazy Sunday afternoon, what do you guys think?

Good thinking! It makes good sense and is something to think about!

[SteveR]

I absolutely think fakers can be useful.


They make great moving targets when you are trying to sight in a new hunting rifle.

Steve Ray

[Paul Massucci]

Just wanted to bring this to the top and see if anyone else has some thoughts on there may have been a 2piece version of this badge also.

[Hoffmann]

Hello everyone!
Do you have any information what material used to made this Young Cossack School Badge with loops? And shuld it be magnetic or not?
If you have any source to scan it and send to me it will be great, as
I just got the Detlive 2004 catalogue but there is no information
about matirial of this badge. Looking forward to hear from you soon.
My email to send scan is: edelweiss@ukrtop.com
Thanks in advance for any kind of help!
HOFFMANN