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    anyone know much about these medals and who made them, i read souval, dont even know if its an originalmedals 287.jpg
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    obverse...medals 288.jpg
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      reverse...medals 289.jpg
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        I know Souval made these, I think the only European firm to do so. I know on the 1st class it has to read Souval on the backing plate to place it of wartime manufacture, at least this is what I have heard . These were produced well after the war into the 60s if Iam not mistaken. Bob Hritz knows a lot about these, he can tell you for sure, IMO I like yours. Iam also not saying that it is wartime, I do not consider the postwar ones as copies.
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          thanks for the info dion, an interesting series of medals -nigel
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            Originally posted by knockoffnigel View Post
            thanks for the info dion, an interesting series of medals -nigel
            I might be mistaken though on this version of yours wO swords, you got me interested in these again because they break up the monotony of TR.


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              i think these medals came in bronze/silver/gold, with and w/o swords, plus a starburst design with ribbon/pinback & neck order, i think thats the one with the souval name on the reverse, i did'nt know they were still being made so late, and i dont know how many were made or value, but like you said, its something different!!
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                Here is the neck order I had.
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                  Anybody else have any info or pics on these before we dive back into the fascinating world of westwall medals
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                    #10
                    These medals were issued, at least there is a doc for an award to a german officer in 1944.

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                      Originally posted by Garulfo View Post
                      These medals were issued, at least there is a doc for an award to a german officer in 1944.
                      I would love to see a doc like that, does anyone have any paperwork to these medals that can be shown?
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                        I know 2 docs, one is illustrated in the Littlejohn book "Foreign legions of the third Reich", vol. 4

                        One to a Oberleutnant of the "2./Ind.Freiw.Leg.i.d.Waffen SS" in december 1944 for the 2nd class of the order with swords (badge like the EKI).

                        The other one to another Oberleutnant of the "Kp.-Fhr. (Ind.) I.R. 950" in august 1944 for the 3rd class of the order without swords (with ribbon like the EKII).

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                          Azad Hind Awards

                          In all my years of collecting I have never been interested in adding an Azad Hind to my collection. Yes, they were awarded, but only in front of the cameras for propaganda purposes.

                          Stan

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                            A mud-puddle really.

                            It was never a German Decoration it was the Free India's 'Azad Hind' medal,
                            some Germans, Japanese and even some Italians received them how it managed to get into the 'Third Reich' cannon is lost to time but most of the early collector books list them adn as they were made in the TR and given out by an organization linked to the Axis once could see why.

                            Myself never bothered with them.

                            Like the other said were made by souval well after the war with the orginal dies and to the same quality if not better.

                            They were made and issued right up to the 1960s when Azad Hind organization finally faded away.

                            Mind you one see allot more interest with our old friend 'Chandra Bose' Some good new history and some obvious revisionist stuff out there on the INA.

                            The 'Official' history has long been, "Most of the INA just surrendered when confronting other Allied troops"

                            The Revisionist have them battling the and defeating Allied forces and taking over huge swaths of India during the U Go offensive and defending to the death and where only defeated by the break down of the Japanese.

                            The truth is some-place in the middle of course a good place to start is here

                            http://www.netaji.org/history.html

                            Rather on the pro side but neat none the less

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                              Originally posted by byterock View Post
                              A mud-puddle really.

                              It was never a German Decoration it was the Free India's 'Azad Hind' medal,
                              some Germans, Japanese and even some Italians received them how it managed to get into the 'Third Reich' cannon is lost to time but most of the early collector books list them adn as they were made in the TR and given out by an organization linked to the Axis once could see why.

                              Myself never bothered with them.

                              Like the other said were made by souval well after the war with the orginal dies and to the same quality if not better.

                              They were made and issued right up to the 1960s when Azad Hind organization finally faded away.

                              Mind you one see allot more interest with our old friend 'Chandra Bose' Some good new history and some obvious revisionist stuff out there on the INA.

                              The 'Official' history has long been, "Most of the INA just surrendered when confronting other Allied troops"

                              The Revisionist have them battling the and defeating Allied forces and taking over huge swaths of India during the U Go offensive and defending to the death and where only defeated by the break down of the Japanese.

                              The truth is some-place in the middle of course a good place to start is here

                              http://www.netaji.org/history.html

                              Rather on the pro side but neat none the less
                              Thank you for that link Byte, I find the stranger more obscure stringents of the volunteer axis facsinating such as azad hind, japanese wh liasions, mongol KM, etc

                              anything weird , iam into it, learning about azad hind is one of them
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