german-italian campaign medal

[Schurgers]

Hi,

Could I please have an opinion on this german-italian campaign medal?

Thanks Willem

[Schurgers]

Reverse

[Don D.]

A nice original IMO.

[Schurgers]

Thanks Don

[Raffaello Carola]

nice original
cheers, Raffaello

other discussion about this interesting medal:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=afrika+medal

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=afrika+medal

[wschmidt]

First Modell Lorioli.

Nice Medall!!!

[Tom Yanacek]

Hello Willem,
I agree. I don't think I've ever seen one in better condition. Can we see pictures of the entire medal bar?
Best regards,
Tom

[Schurgers]

bar

Hello all,

Thanks for the replies. Here is a picture of the entire bar. Sorry for the bad quality. I had to cut and past in from a website. I have an option on this bar now for 220.- Euros. I am worried about the combination.

Were German soldiers entitled to win the German-Italian campaign medal?

If yes: the combination with the service medal is OK. If not the bar is bogus. Any suggestions?

Willem

[Raffaello Carola]

Hello Willem,

nice original bar with an honest price . The medal of Italo-German campaign
medal in Afrika 1941 was instituited 7/01/1943 (Comando Supremo) is an
medal award for the italo-german troops.
cheers, Raffaello

[Schurgers]

Hi Raffaello,

Thanks for your reply. So it was a Italian instituted medal that could be obtained by Italian and German soldiers. What is the difference between the bronze and the silver medal?

Willem

[Raffaello Carola]

Hello Willem,

this medal was produced by Lorioli factory exist only in bronze and
a variation in grey metal (kriegsmetall).
After the second war is replaced without the fascio and swastika
with only Savoy knot.
cheers, Raffaello

[Jean-Loup]

"The medal of Italo-German campaign
medal in Afrika 1941 was instituited 7/01/1943 (Comando Supremo) is an
medal award for the italo-german troops."

Hi Raffaelo, are you sure this date is correct, and that you didnt make a mistake? I very seriously doubt this medal came out in 1943.

JL

[Schurgers]

Ok. So the so called "silver" medal is actually a lower quality kriegsmetall.

Wille

[Raffaello Carola]

"The medal of Italo-German campaign
medal in Afrika 1941 was instituited 7/01/1943 (Comando Supremo) is an
medal award for the italo-german troops."

Hi Raffaelo, are you sure this date is correct, and that
you didnt make a mistake? I very seriously doubt this medal came out in 1943.

JL

Hi Jean Loup,

this is the scan of the Alessandro Brambilla book "italian medals in
the last 200 years" vol.2 1901-1996. The design illustrated the
two type of this medal WWII and postwar and the different ribbon
(the postwar is large type), this medal was established 7/01/1943
(Comando Supremo) with an telegram in this date, the Duce was
mentioned the authorization in the 25 December 1942 after the
Comando Supremo give the approvation (13 days)
cheers, Raffaello

[Jean-Loup]

Interesting. But I still do not believe that this medal came ou in 1943. Maybe there is a typo in the book, and they meant 7/01/1942?
Here is a source saying the institution date is 1942 for example: http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1801

JL