Hello just got this little bar wmc wo x & treue dienst marked tz on the reverse
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Nice one!
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Johan,
Do you feel this is a period bar? I ask as the metal mounting bracket is very clean (no dust build up, lint or corrosion) as opposed to the condition of the medals. I am always a bit skeptical of the bars that utilize this type of mounting bracket. The oppertunity to put a bar together is so easy this way as opposed to the cloth backed bars. Mind you, this is just my opinion.
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Seems like a nice one to me.
Regards,
Chris
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I agree with Chet on this one. The type of pin used is Imperial & many remain today in unused condition.
From the advice i have previously been given i think i may be able to help.
If the ribbons are stiff then it should be OK. What will have happened is that a soldier will have gained a second medal & therefore would have got the new medal mounted with the medal from the one medal mount he already had. So if both ribbons are stiff from age it was remounted during the war.
However, if one ribbon (or both) are very flexible then it will be a post war remount, sometimes with the wrong width ribbon.
Hope that helps.
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Hold the phone here guysOriginally posted by Chet Sowersby View Post
All mounted on these brackets are not to be written off. Chet I agree, but I see hundreds mounted on these brackets.Iam Uncle Sam
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Dion,
If was not my intent to infer that all medal bracket court mounts are bad. Indeed, they are quite common. What I was trying to convey was that more times than not a fake will utilize this type of hardware as opposed to the cloth backed types. As for the bar that began this thread I felt that the obverse did not match the reverse hardware.
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I am holding fire
I didn't say it wasn't a good one, just that both ribbons should be stiff after 60 years.Comment
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Ant,
So if I run into a bar mounted like this and the ribbons arent stiff, I should pass it up?Iam Uncle Sam
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Maybe-someribbons are still soft depending upon storage. Some of these were only worn once and then stuck in a box until Grandpa died. However, almost anything held in place for 60+ years has some brittleness to it. Use your judgement-there are just waaaayyyy too many fakes out there with simple mounting brackets. Look at the ones coming out of Austria the past 10 years or so-which use these back mounts or the tight edge stitching.
But does it make sense? Does it glow? Is there patina? Are the medals original?
Does it smell? Who had it-where did it come from?
All are factors to consider.
A guy named Babin used to say, if you aren't 100% certain-walk away, another will come along eventually.Comment
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But does it make sense? Does it glow? Is there patina? Are the medals original?
Does it smell?
Who had it?
exactlyIam Uncle Sam
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Originally posted by antwhiplash View Post
This isnt very accurate advice. Exceptions abound. I have seen many period medals bars that dont have stiff ribbons.
I am trying to figure out why anyone would go through the trouble of faking a medal bar like this? Nice condition, but not very sexy.
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Here are some new pics better i hope.The ribbons arent that stiff they do not glow.Comment
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