I would like any Rider Badge Expert opinions. For that matter, I will take any opinions....
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Not the hinge/pin/catch I personally would expect for a Lauer rider from what I have seen so far or own, but could well be a variant that I haven´t seen yet. Rest is ok, gilding too looks believable on second sight.
Cheers, FrankCheers, Frank
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Thought about this some more:
Probably that hinge/pin/catch is fine for zinker Lauer riders, I just own Buntmetall ones, which have very different hinges. Deriving my thoughts from the way hinges changed e.g. on Luftwaffe badges, it is logical to assume that your hinge is fine for a zinker Lauer.
Cheers, FrankCheers, Frank
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Unfortunately the scans are too close and fuzzy for me. I had a wartime silver class badge years ago with the same "Hungarian" type bubbly finish. I don't remember the details of pin or catch BUT...
the one I had was not zink, it was a dark, gun-metal colored metal, almost black, over which the finish had been spritzed. The FINISH was bubbled, not the base metal itself.
Is your badge that "coal" colored base metal with crappy finish, or is the metal itself corroded? I can't tell from the focus.
In any case, the higher grades of this badge are quite rare for wartime period bestowals... no matter HOW ugly the badges are!
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Rick,Is your badge that "coal" colored base metal with crappy finish, or is the metal itself corroded? I can't tell from the focus.
Actually, when I look through a 10X loop, it looks like it could be a little of both. On a few spots where the gilting has completely chipped/flaked away and where there is little signs of corrosion, the base metal appears to be a darker gray/silver color. Not sure if I would call it coal, but it is closer to a darker gray/silver. There is a spot above the first "E" in word "GESETZLICH" that provides the best example. I am not sure if it shows up on this thread though. In many of the places where the gilting has chipped off there is a layer that looks like corrosion that has formed over that darker gray/silvery base. For the most part I would have to say there is quite a bit of corrosion that has has formed where the gilting flaked. Obivously it hasn't been well cared for over time.
Either way Rick, is that a thumbs up or thumbs down for this piece?Comment
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Weren't these issued after WW2 just like the DLRG badges? At some point they took the 'R' off, but didn't they issue them WITH the 'R' until the 60's? I don't have the data in front of me, but that is my general impression.
I have a few examples somewhere, and when I find them, I'll post them. To my recollection I have never seen the rider's badge
with the type of pin that Hauptmann is showing us. Lauer was certainly a fine prewar (and post war) badge maker and if this badge is good, it is a shame that they were reduced to using this type of pin assembly.
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"R" was not continued after the war for the reason that it did not stand for "Reiter" but rather for "Reichs"-- and THAT would never have done, no no!
Forman's price guide for a number of auto-pilot reprints has included a West German "R-less" badge as an "early" model when no R indicates West German.
Like I said, I don't remember the exact pin construction on my silver badge, but the general appearance was indeed this "bad"-- which given the tiny numbers awarded and the presumed late date of manufacture, I take to be a GOOD sign.
It is just incredibly UGLY and cheap looking. I wonder if the finish bubbling is the result of age, and they looked better in 1943?Comment
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