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    HELP needed for medals to GenLt. Karl Hansen

    Hello All,

    I need some research help and/or 'best guess' on some awards for a tunic. This tunic belonged to GenLt. Karl Hanson and here is the info I have on him already:

    Decorations & Awards:
    • Prussian Order Pour le Mérite: 8 November 1918, Hauptmann, Battalion Commander in Reserve Infantry Regiment 252. [Awarded for outstanding leadership and distinguished military planning and successful operations on the Western Front. The award also recognized his distinction in action during the massive assaults on the German positions by American and French troops between the Champagne sector and the Maas River during September 1918. The award also recognized his distinction during the battle at Vouziers.]
    • Prussian Royal Hohenzollern House Order, Knight’s Cross with Swords: 22 September 1917.
    • Prussian Iron Cross, 1st Class (1914)
    • Prussian Iron Cross, 2nd Class (1914)
    • Saxon Albert Order, Knight 2nd Class (WITHOUT swords - probably a pre-WWI award)
    • Hesse General Honor Decoration, “for Bravery”
    • Saxe-Ernestine House Order, Knight 2nd Class (WITHOUT Swords - probably a pre-WWI award)
    • Saxe-Meiningen Cross for Merit in War
    • Schwarzburg Honor Cross, 3rd Class with Swords
    • Prussian Officers’ Long Service Cross
    • Austrian Military Merit Cross, 3rd Class with War Decoration
    • Wound Badge in Black – WWI award

    BORN: 05/05/1876 in Coburg.
    DIED: 01/09/1965 in Meiningen.
    AWARDS: Pour le Mérite (08/11/1918); Ritterkreuz d. kgl. Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwerten (22/09/1917).
    PROMOTION DATES: Fähnrich (18/10/1897); Sekondeleutnant (18/08/1898); Oberleutnant (04/08/1909); Hauptmann (01/10/1913); Major (18/12/1920); Oberstleutnant (01/02/1926); Oberst (01/10/1929); Charakter als Generalmajor (31/01/1931); Charakter als Generalleutnant (27/08/1939); Generalmajor z.V. (01/02/1941); Generalleutnant z.V. (01/01/1942).
    CAREER
    PRE WWI & WWI
    Entered Service in the Army as an Officer-Aspirant in the 32nd Infantry-Regiment (03/04/1897-1904).
    Adjutant of the III. Battalion of the 32nd Infantry-Regiment (1904-01/08/1904).
    Company-Chief in the 32nd Infantry-Regiment (01/08/1914-09/11/1914).
    Wounded, in Hospital (09/11/1914-??/01/1915).
    Company-Leader in the 252nd Reserve-Infantry-Regiment (??/01/1915-??/02/1915).
    Leader of the I. and II. Battalions of the 252nd Reserve-Infantry-Regiment (??/02/1915-01/05/1915).
    Leader of the I. Battalion of the 252nd Infantry-Regiment (01/05/1915-??/01/1916).
    Detached to the Officer-Training-Course in Neugut (??/01/1916-09/06/1916).
    Commander of the I. Battalion of the 252nd Infantry-Regiment (09/06/1916-~);
    At the same time, Regimental-Leader of the 245th & 253rd Reserve-Infantry-Regiments (??/09/1918-??/10/1918).

    INTER-WAR YEARS
    Commander of the I. Battalion of the 252nd Infantry-Regiment (~-16/12/1918).
    Commander of the IV. Battalion of the Regiment Stobbe (16/12/1918-01/08/1919).
    Company-Leader in the 8th Reichswehr-Infantry-Regiment (01/08/1919-01/10/1920).
    Company-Commander in the 12th Infantry-Regiment (01/10/1920-1923).
    With the Staff of Infantry-Leader I (1923-01/12/1925)
    Commander of the II. Battalion of the 21st Infantry-Regiment (01/12/1925-01/04/1929).
    Commandant of the Troop-Training-Grounds at Ohrdruf (01/04/1929-31/01/1931).
    Retired with the Honourary rank of Generalmajor (31/01/1931).
    Placed to the Command of the Army (26/08/1938-~).

    WWII
    Placed to the Command of the Army (~-23/05/1940).
    Commandant of the Troop-Training-Grounds at Beverloo (23/05/1940-24/04/1942).
    Führer-Reserve (24/04/1942-31/05/1942).
    Mobilisation Regulation Lifted (Retired) (31/05/1942).
    .....

    I am unable to figure out what the other 3 breast badges would be for him. There are a total of 6 on the left breast and 3 would be (WW1 IC 1st, WW2 IC Spange, Black WW1 Wound badge).. the other 3 are a mystery..... perhaps a War Merit 1st with swords and a General Assult ??????? (I don't think he saw any action in WW2) ??????

    Also...... Does anyone have any ideas where I can get a medal bar made up and a reallt nice copy of a PLM ?????

    Thanks
    Mark
    www.militariamuseum.com





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    Those are clearly loops for a 1939 EK1 Spange over a 1914 EK1 and a Wound Badge-- I certainly can't account for him getting bars to his EKs, nor for the other three pinback awards. Neither of the other two Generals Hansen seem to match either (a German Cross winner, Turkish WW1 War Medal star)--

    is there a name label in this tunic?

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      Hey Rick,

      It's definatley his, lable is dated June 41...... I figure that he recieved them in his service from 39 to 40 (I dont have any details other than 'placed in command of the army').....

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        Hey Rick,

        It's definatley his, lable is dated June 41...... I figure that he recieved them in his service from 39 to 40 (I dont have any details other than 'placed in command of the army').....

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          #5
          Yup! Cropped off portrait in his Generals' biography entry so can't see his pocket?

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            #6
            ready ?

            Hello All....

            Question...... Does this order look correct for the ribbons for Gen Hansen's bar:

            • Prussian Iron Cross, 2nd Class w/WW2 spange
            • Prussian Royal Hohenzollern House Order, Knight’s Cross with Swords
            • Saxon Albert Order, Knight 2nd Class (WITHOUT swords)
            • Hesse General Honor Decoration
            • Saxe-Ernestine House Order, Knight 2nd Class (WITHOUT Swords)
            • Saxe-Meiningen Cross for Merit in War
            • Schwarzburg Honor Cross, 3rd Class with Swords
            • Hindenburg Cross
            • Nazi Officers’ Long Service Cross (25 years)
            • Nazi Officers’ Long Service Cross (12 years)
            • Austrian Military Merit Cross, 3rd Class with War Decoration

            My question is the Hesse order mixed between the Saxon orders.....???

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