Help with Partisan Badge

[Rick C]

Number "1"

Never noticed it before but, yes, I think it is. Not much of a base to the 1 but there does appear to be a 1. Is that Deschler?

[Don D.]

Deschler is not a known maker for this award. Could be a die number or something else. What metal is the badge made of?
Don

[Rick C]

Honestly, not a clue. The back has a bronze/dull brass hue to it. The front also appear bronze like although there appears to be silver (perhaps) plate to areas not worn.

[mmiller]

Hi Rick,

If authentic, this style APB must be zink!

Is it possible to get a straight-on image of the reverse, concentrating on the '1'? You can send it to my email addresses I gave you. I will post it for you.

IF it is, in fact, a numeral one, that would be the first APB I have seen with a numeric marking. Could it be a mold number, similar to the late war zink Assmann injection molded badges, with the '1' or '2' designations on the rear wreath.


Mark

[Rick C]

Don, Honestly, not a clue. The back has a bronze/dull brass hue to it. The front also appear bronze like although there appears to be silver (perhaps) plate to areas not worn.

[mmiller]

Rick,

I can weigh and measure an APB when I get home, to compare with your specs.

Don't forget the image of the '1'!

Mark

[Rick C]

here's the best I can do with this Nikon on the '1'.

[mmiller]

Here is a view directly of the rear and the '1'. From Rick.

Mark


Note the '1'

[Leroy]

I have had a badge like this in my collection for over 30 years, so whatever it is, it is not a recent fake. My camera is down right now, but the metal I believe is a nice bronze. The wide pin on mine is gone and replaced with a thin round pin in what appears to be a period repair. On mine, the "1" seems to be cut just a little deeper. I always thought it was a Deschler.

[mmiller]

Leroy,

I doubt it is a Deschler. I believe the current thought is that these were made by MuK, as in AGMuk4 & AGMuk5.

I think Don and I concur, a mold number.

Mark


ASSMANN double marked L/64 & A. Please note the (1) mold number on the rear right side of the wreath. There is no correlation between the '1' and Deschler & Sohn. The exact same badge by Assmann can be found with a '2'. My guess is the same theory applies to the APB's #'1'.

[Rick C]

So, if I'm understanding right, no one's seen this kind of a mark on an APB but Leroy till now? Could the 1 mean it's the first pattern as described in Forman & Tuck's books? Rick C.

[upbeek]

apb

hi rick ,i think you should have posted this in the badges section,i have never seen one like this before ,chay

[mmiller]

Hi Rick,

I would say no, this is not a first pattern. The first paterns were solid back and constructed differently.

This is a second pattern.

Regards,
Mark

So, if I'm understanding right, no one's seen this kind of a mark on an APB but Leroy till now? Could the 1 mean it's the first pattern as described in Forman & Tuck's books? Rick C.

[upbeek]

zinc

here is a picture of mine show<LEGEND>Attached Images</LEGEND>ing the finnish left

[upbeek]

1

i dont think i can post pictures any more maybe my subscription has expired ???