White Kneepads - Reproductions?

[Jan43]

Not even one comment...!!!

Maybe these were made in a hurry for operation Stösser, as snow camo kneepads

Best Jan

[John Hodgin]

A major concern IMHO.

Please keep us posted on what else you discover with your close exam Jan.

Hi Jan,

The lack of a center seam still remains a problem for me. To borrow Lenny's good phrase, the pads are well beyond my "comfort zone."

[RobertE]

Jan, mine white pads are identical to yours. They are very well made, I'll say that. But as far as originality...I have no idea.

Regards, Robert

[Willi Z.]

Yes, they are certainly well-made. I have seen a number of these over the years, but usually abruptly dismissed them. But, they keep popping up, and from reasonably good sources. The fittings and absence of a center seam continue to trouble me. I like the markings and some of the construction features. Logically, they don't make sense. White pads with black/ dark blue straps; no other knee pads appear to have such dark straps.

I still think the jury is out on these.....

[Jan43]

Thanks for the feedback

My only concern with these is the relative high studs, why so high when the lower worked allright?? Were these made for something else? They do though have the spinning tops like the known originals.
I noticed that the studs are painted all through black as the Italian elbow Robert just showed in the other thread, but I don´t know if the Italians are original. just a small observation.

I think they do make sense in a late scenario made in a hurry for training purposes or as discards kneepads in an operational jump, as kneepads seldom were worn in combat, and these would there for probably be the first FJ item, to be slagged on in production finish.

I still don´t think the missing seam are any problem, if we look at countless evolution and adaption of
all things in the German military industry throughout the war, I think it´s very likely kneepads could evolve too.

Best Jan

[clint-magnum]

Jan or John,
could you please show which center seam is missing ?
I still do not understand what you guys mean

[Jan43]

Hi Clint
On all the know original, there are a seam going right through the pad, dividing the 6 cushings into 2 parts of 3 cushings. You can see a little of this seam in Kurtzs book on Willis splinter pads, and off cause if you examine a pair closely.
This illustrates my point a little, why does it have to be there??
Best Jan

[Jan43]

"the pads are well beyond my "comfort zone.""

Allthough its a good phrase, and I partly agree, we must remember, that we are preprogrammed to be affraid of what we don´t recognize and know, and we shouldn´t let this get in our way of examine things closely and methodically.
Best Jan

[John Hodgin]

I still don´t think the missing seam are any problem, if we look at countless evolution and adaption of
all things in the German military industry throughout the war, I think it´s very likely kneepads could evolve too.

Best Jan

Sorry Jan, could not disagree more. Consider jump smocks for one example. There is much that could have been eliminated on smock design which would have streamlined production. Yet NOTHING was changed, and a 45 jump smock has ALL the details that a 42 smock does.

[Jan43]

Yes I will give you that John, but you could say about smocks that they finally after 3models ended up with the what they considered perfection, and didn´t need more alteration.

But not to just being stubbern, I will also say that I too aren´t totally convinced either, so lets wait and see what evidence turns up, then we might be wiser.

Maybe when Paulj shows his with the blue straps there are some clues connecting to these pads.

Best Jan

[Jan43]

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