What are these tunics?

[paulmfjr2]

I have seen several pictures of this tunic in wear, the pictures may have been taken at the same time of the same unit, but as you can see they are not individual one of items but seem to be made en masse. this are pictures i have had a while from the internet so i have no history on them.

[Fallschirmjaeger]

What year etc....

No info on the year of these?,like are they back from crete or north africa,and these are not standard luftwaffe issue shirts right .So maybe captured allied stocks,like british,greek etc..,not italian ones even?

[paulmfjr2]

I think the pictures are post crete, but the tunics are not British pattern, maybe greek, can anyone else share some info?

[Pierre]

And it is the first time I see Luftwaffe sleeve ranks on a front buttoned jacket with breast pockets (look at the officer).

Pierre

[paulmfjr2]

i kinow! thats what makes me think they are captured stock but where from, if you look at some of the other men, shoulder boards and collar tabs have been added also, its not just something they have picked up but something they intend to wear for a while, I think I might have a wedding photo of a guy wearing the same tunic I will take a look.

Paul

[PANZERPIONIERE]

I like the NCO with the tresse!
Steve

looking for anything pertaining to Pi.Btl.16 and Pz.Pi.Btl.16

[Uncle Kurt]

Hallo,
The Mann mit the white hat is Major Stenzler
Kommandant from II./ Fallschirm-Sturm-Rgt.1
after Kreta Sommer 1941 in Goslar.
The Uniform is a british beute tropen uniform from Kreta


Sorry, my english

[David Fettes]

Paul,

Dont let your misses catch you looking at wedding photographs!!!

i kinow! thats what makes me think they are captured stock but where from, if you look at some of the other men, shoulder boards and collar tabs have been added also, its not just something they have picked up but something they intend to wear for a while, I think I might have a wedding photo of a guy wearing the same tunic I will take a look.

Paul

[paulmfjr2]

The british tropical BD blouse is shorter than these tunics and at the bottom the is an inbuilt belt fastening which is not present on these pictures, unless they are britsh type i have not seen?

[Uncle Kurt]

Hallo,
Die Jacken wurden gekürzt.
Es gibt diese Fotos mit diesen Jacken nur auf Kreta und kurz nach Kreta.
Look Robert Kurz, Paratrooper, Seite 52 unten

[paulmfjr2]

But shortened from what? its to early for them to be luftwaffe issue 4 pocket tunics which are then shortened, so they must be altered captured tunics or custom made. If you look at the picture in the Kurtz book as mentioned, one man appears to have the exact same style of jacket but in blue!!!!! the mystery continues........................

[Ron V]

Jackets, Khaki Drill, (O.R.)

These look to be a variant of Britsh Army kit that was prevalent during the 1920's & 30's. One type, manufactured in Cairo in 1940, had removeable
Regimental buttons (a total of five down the front) and boxed button flaps. These flaps had smaller buttons as did the shoulder straps.

The jackets shown in the posted photos seem to match this pattern of jacket exactly, except they have been shortened 4-6 inches. The buttons look to have been replaced by the standard German pattern.

This jacket was not front line issue by 1941 but would no doubt have remained in British Army stores. These may have made it to Greece or Crete and then been liberated by FJ who were lacking in anything more suitable for the hot Mediteranean weather.

Judging by the flowers carried and the greeting being provided, I suspect that these FJ have just returned to Germany from the Med.

Info on the Jacket from "Uniforms of the WWII Tommy, by David B. Gordon, ISBN 1-57510-122-X, (page 78).

FWIW,
Ron Volstad

[Rich G]

Are you sure these are FJ? I see awards but no FJ badges...

Rich

[SMP]

Are you sure these are FJ? I see awards but no FJ badges...

Rich

They are wearing jump trousers.

[Uncle Kurt]

Hallo,
is shortened from the britische Tropenjacke.
Die Sie (German Fallschirmjäger) auf Kreta erbeutet hatten.
Die Fallschirmjäger hatten ja auch britische kurze Hosen, erbeutet, umgenäht und auf Kreta weiter getragen (Ich habe so eine in Original in meiner Sammlung)
In Blue= wurde eingefärbt um sie weiter zu tragen.

Sorry, for my english.
und das ich auch in deutsch schreibe.