New Forum

[Greg S]

New Forum, this is great.

How long will it be before the old marked unmarked APB controversey returns?

What was the consenses on those APB?
or was it left inconclusive.

[Eric Queen]

Greg,

Thanks for the interest, but I think ( I hope ) we have already beaten that dead horse enough. Sometimes you need to agree to disagree and go on.

Looking forward to your participation in the new forum.

Eric

[Prosper Keating]

Ranger,

Well…er…you've just brought it up, haven't you? There never was any controversy. Some people didn't agree with what Eric Queen and I wrote in our article about the Fallschirmschützenabzeichen des Heeres published elsewhere on this website.

A few of them sought to discredit us in various ways, one of which included claims that we had said all 2nd pattern prewar Army Parachutist Badges bearing a maker's mark were fakes. To summarise what was stated in the article to which you are, essentially, referring:

All the genuine prewar 1st pattern APBs in aluminium observed to date are maker-marked.

Most of the genuine prewar 2nd pattern APBs in aluminium observed to date are not maker-marked.

None of the genuine prewar 1st or 2nd pattern APBs in 800 silver observed to date are maker-marked.

None of the genuine 1943-issue feinzink APBs observed to date are maker-marked but can be identified as Juncker-made pieces because they were struck on the same set of dies as the prewar 2nd pattern aluminium APBs, some of which are maker-marked.

The article is quite clear on each of the above points. It is to be noted none of the people who tried to rubbish our findings could produce a genuine Army Parachutist Badge themselves. Or any evidence that they had ever studied the subject seriously.

Mind you, there was the individual who does have a genuine, worn and repaired example in his private collection which I offered to buy instead of the near-mint one he was offering for sale…which I never said was fake. I just wanted to buy the one I knew to be genuine. He refused my offer.

Anyway, let's forget it and move on to more interesting things, shall we?



Prosper Keating

[François SAEZ]

Welcome back my friend

[Bob Hritz]

I am pleased to find this new Forum added. I think we will all learn something from this venture. Good luck and I will be looking forward to the disgussions.
Bob Hritz

[Eric Queen]

Thanks for the support Bob. I appreciate it.
Looking forward to your participation.

Eric

[Greg S]

Eric, Prosper thanks for the explanation and the article written on the badge.

Sorry for kicking the dead horse.

In looking at the differences in the pre-39 and the 1943 and later Heer para Badge how can I distinguish between zink and aluminium, please bear with me my experince is limited. What is the weight of the different types.

[Prosper Keating]

Zink is heavier than alumunium.



PK