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    #16
    Smokecity, nice helmet and very interesting pictures. I would store your helmet in a dry place that has a somewhat even temperature year round (don't store it in your attic or garage). Of course, keep it away from direct contact with any sunlight / air conditioning / heating vent. Paratrooper helmets are very valuable and I would encourage you not to mess with it anymore. Please do not disassemble the liner to clean it or anything else (if you do, that would negatively affect the value significantly; perhaps reduce the value by 50% or more). The active rust has been addressed and that is all that needs to be done. Store it on a shelf and don't use a mannequin head or any helmet stand that puts additional stress on the liner's leather. Last thing, you should write down as much as you know about your father's service and his stories. In particular, write down as much as you know about the helmet and keep such documentation with the helmet. A helmet with some legitimate provenance as this makes it more unique than others that have none.

    Last piece of advice (and I know this runs counter to my collecting interests): $3000 to $4000 is a lot of money, but the helmet is (or should be) part of your dad's service and your family's history. I would not sell it unless I really, really had to. You may regret it when some years down the road the $3000/$4000 does not seem that much anymore.

    The pictures are very interesting, please also preserve them.
    When you go home
    Tell them for us and say
    For your tomorrow
    We gave our today

    --Inscription in the 5th Marine Division cemetery,
    Iwo Jima 1945

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      #17
      Walter,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
      Just so you know I have no interest in trying to buy Eric’s helmet. My interest is in possibly helping to remember his father in my next book on FJ helmets. In the scenario presented I think it would be tacky to try and buy it!<o></o>
      Best Wishes,<o></o>
      Bob
      www.collectortocollectormilitaria.com

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        #18
        All, I am just tickled pink with the interest in the helmet. I have no intention of selling anything my dad brought home. I am amazed at the monetary value listed for the helmet, but it has much more value to me beyond the money. It with the other items I have will be kept in the family, I have a 6 year old daughter that will be very well educated on her grandfathers experiences and what he did, when she is older.

        I would like to share photos of some of the other items I have I just need to figure out which forum to post them in. I have three pistols(P-08 w/holster and 2 spare magazines,P-38 and 38h w/holster), some 9mm ammo in their boxes, a podium banner, the already posted binoculars, a compass and scans of my dads photo albums like the ones of the plane crash. I'm pretty sure my dad may still have some other items in his house, but he also donated a few things to a local museum where he lives before I could "liberate" them to keep them in the family. (much to my disappointment, they included a Hitler Youth knife, a deactivated and GI decorated Schu mine box, a small Nazi battle flag, a British commando knife made by Wilkinson, and a ME-109 compass.) Funny how my dad (and other vets he knows) think of this stuff as "old junk that's laying around the house". I think he might still have a FJ gravity knife, but I think it's locking mechanism is broken or missing (actually he had a couple of them, that he use to use on the boat we had when I was a kid.) I know he had a lot more stuff years ago, but he doesn't remember what happened to it. At one point he had a complete German parachute, but I haven't seen that since I was maybe 8 or 10 years old. I shudder to think what else he might have had at one time and just threw away. I also shudder to think about some of the stuff I played with as a child and destroyed, lost or otherwise ruined 30 years ago. Who knew it was so valuable back then.

        Bob, I have sent you another e-mail regarding pictures.

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            #20
            Helmet Preservation?

            What is "dubbin"? Chris....

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              #21
              Originally posted by BobI
              Walter,<O></O>
              Just so you know I have no interest in trying to buy Eric’s helmet. My interest is in possibly helping to remember his father in my next book on FJ helmets. In the scenario presented I think it would be tacky to try and buy it!<O></O>
              Best Wishes,<O></O>
              Bob
              Bob, please be assured that I did not direct my advice to smokycity as a result of your post. My advice was merely given as a general caution to someone that perhaps did not know how valuable untouched para helmets are nowadays and might be tempted. No offense intended against anyone.
              When you go home
              Tell them for us and say
              For your tomorrow
              We gave our today

              --Inscription in the 5th Marine Division cemetery,
              Iwo Jima 1945

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                Last edited by Matt Starr; 03-28-2008, 11:36 AM.

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                  #23
                  I would advise not to put any products on the leather. Usualy, the more you do to a helmet, the less it is worth. Usualy helmet collectors will not want a helmet that has signs of having had the leather "treated".

                  JL

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                    #24
                    Those binos are not U-boat issue. They are standard 7x50s. As for the photos, I think they represent FJs on Operation Stosser during the Ardennes offensive. I have a few original photos which have similiar scenes of shot down Ju52 and dead FJs.
                    Willi

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Willi Zahn
                      Those binos are not U-boat issue. They are standard 7x50s. As for the photos, I think they represent FJs on Operation Stosser during the Ardennes offensive. I have a few original photos which have similiar scenes of shot down Ju52 and dead FJs.
                      Not to be defensive, but I am just relating what my dad has told me. He was very clear about finding the binoculars in the pens. But that doesn't mean they have to be U-boat issue. The photos of the plane crash in his photo album are originals as far as I know , and the posted images are a scan of that page. He's in the center photo with the .50 cal and he is in the one in the middle left standing infront of the wreckage. He talked about watching it crash. I can ask him where he was when that happened again, but I was pretty sure he mentioned Julich. But it's been a few years since I talked about that particular incident with him. I just chose those pictures since this is the FJ forum.

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                        #26
                        One of the photos I have also states the Ju52 was shot down near Julich. It is also dated Dec 17, 1944. That makes it the Ardennes and Operation Stosser, and the plane was shot down by US AA batteries. I would love to hear what your father knew about that operation and some more details of the engagement.

                        Not saying the binos could not have been used by U-boat crews, am just saying they are not of the style known to be U-boat issue, which makes a tremendous difference in value.

                        Am just trying to help.....
                        Willi

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Willi Zahn
                          One of the photos I have also states the Ju52 was shot down near Julich. It is also dated Dec 17, 1944. That makes it the Ardennes and Operation Stosser, and the plane was shot down by US AA batteries. I would love to hear what your father knew about that operation and some more details of the engagement.

                          Not saying the binos could not have been used by U-boat crews, am just saying they are not of the style known to be U-boat issue, which makes a tremendous difference in value.

                          Am just trying to help.....
                          No offense taken, I was just trying to clarify what I have been told over the years. I have never heard of Operation Stosser. But I will say the date sounds right for what my dad has told me. I know they were in that area (Julich) in December 44 and January 45. I will ask him about it when I call him in the next couple days and let you know. Maybe my dads photos could be another view of the same incident that you have pictures of. I may also be incorrect on the shoot down method. He has a couple airplane stories besides this one. (the others were getting straffed by a Fw-190 and/ or a Stuka, overunning a Me-109 base and watching something with P-47's happen. ) I might be getting them partially mixed up on the shoot down method, but I am positive he watched this plane crash. I appologize if I came across as defensive.

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                            #28
                            Here is one of the photos I have. Another shows a GI taking down a camo chute that was snagged in a pine tree.
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                            Willi

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                              #29
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                                #30
                                No Problem Walter!
                                Best Wishes,
                                Bob
                                www.collectortocollectormilitaria.com

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