Soldbuch Panzer Abeilung 208

[mufasa]

I tried to trace this small group of a pioneer of the Panzer Abteilung 208 but the information in his zweischrift are very few, especially about his military service before the release of the soldbuch….


A zweischrift issued to Gerard Runze, class 1911 of Dresden, from the Panzerjäger-Ersatz- und Ausbildungs-Abteilung 5 of Karlsruhe on April 30, 1944.
His dogtag is released to the Radfahr-Ersatz-Schwadron 213 (probably 1940/1941, we had tried to look here but without other elements every search is complicated)

[mufasa]

the page of his units: after a first provisional assignment to the Panzerjäger-Abteilung 355 his destination is in Italy, in the OZAK in the Stab of the Panzer Abteilung 208 (as the panel D the Stab and the Stabskompanie of the 208 had to be formed from Pz.Ers.u.Ausb.Abt. 18 (Wehrkreis IV

Assigned to the Pioner Zug…. Two nice pics of SdKfz 251 in the pioneer version 7, foreseen in number of 3 at the Zug of 208 (it will arrive, again from Di Giusto's notes, only in December 1944 in Hungary)

[mufasa]

The pages of the assignments: the "Versatz" dated 27/9/44 then in Italy, other previous assignments and his shooting tests.

An interesting Walter P38 assigned on March 2, 1945....

[mufasa]

he long list of his hospitalizations and convalescences is probably the reason for his important "delay" in the service: Hernia, anacid gastritis, eye diseases, gout, and again eyes... from August 1942 he returned to army at the end of 1944

His lazararet (thanks Gerdan)
Rela (Reserve-Lazarett) Hollabrunn
Kr.S. Stars Dr. St. 05433
Kr. Laz. 3/509
Relay II Zittau
Rela Pirna - Teillazarett Struffen
Rela Ravensburg - Teillazarett Weingarthen
Rela Pforzheim - Teillazarett

[mufasa]

And the nice page of the Check ... after t Panzerjäger-Ersatz- und Ausbildungs-Abteilung 5 (retroactive) that of the Stab of the Panzer Abteilung 208. The stamp is almost illegible, only the final 1 (01991) is distinguished, but the signature is perfect: "EVootz" Leutnant Ernst Vootz, commander of the pioneer Zug, who fell in front of the Russian T34 on the Vah river in Slovakia in front of Galanta, on April 1, 1945, a dramatic day for all the Abteilung.

Place more photos of SdKfz 251/7

[mufasa]

A correction on the pay class, licenses before assignment to Panzer Abteilung 208, there are no decorations or anything.
Two Czechoslovak annotations, on the soldbuch and on a piece of paper, the stamp of Kutná Hora, a pass for the German border?

[mufasa]

great in this small research was the study by Stefano Di Giusto Panzer-Abteilung 208 I. / Panzer-Regiment Feldherrnhalle

[mufasa]

and finally the photos of Gerard including a beautiful portrait with the Panzer-Pionier insignia (I can't date it, taken in southern Prussia, but it should be after 1944)

[Daniele C]

very nice soldbuch my friend, now i know who beat me to it lol

[naxos]

Great Soldbuch Oriano!

Born in 1911, he would have done his military service before the war. Could the photo of him in the black Pz tunic be taken then? He looks much younger and has a lot more hair compared to the Soldbuch ID photo.

In 1944 he looked his age (over 30) as you can see on the Soldbuch photo.

Or could it be his younger brother? There is definitely a resemblance but some differences in the ear shape and earlobe. What do you think?

[mufasa]

Great Soldbuch Oriano!

Born in 1911, he would have done his military service before the war. Could the photo of him in the black Pz tunic be taken then? He looks much younger and has a lot more hair compared to the Soldbuch ID photo.

In 1944 he looked his age (over 30) as you can see on the Soldbuch photo.

Or could it be his younger brother? There is definitely a resemblance but some differences in the ear shape and earlobe. What do you think?

Thank you Naxos.
I follow you very well because the place where this photo was taken, I absolutely cannot connect it to the soldbuch .... the only thing that works in addition to a mild resemblance are the panzer pioneer insigna, but the date and place are very unlikely ..


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[pauke]

Definitely not the same person.

[mufasa]

Definitely not the same person.

Thanks Pauke!

[Ironcrown]

Well filled Soldbuch, to be a Zweitschrift
What makes me think is the reason why a supposedly experienced soldier that was drafted in military service before the war and then called back in the army at least in 1941-42 (when the dogtag was issued) remained just a "Schuetze".
I expected him to become at least an Obergefreiter, if not a Stabsgefreiter.
Demoted for some reason, maybe?

[naxos]

Well filled Soldbuch, to be a Zweitschrift
What makes me think is the reason why a supposedly experienced soldier that was drafted in military service before the war and then called back in the army at least in 1941-42 (when the dogtag was issued) remained just a "Schuetze".
I expected him to become at least an Obergefreiter, if not a Stabsgefreiter.
Demoted for some reason, maybe?

I think perhaps his health problems "scrotal hernia" kept him from advancing