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    One of my research interests are soldiers that participated in sustained close combat.
    Locations and dates can be researched through Close-Combat-Day lists. These Close-Combat-Day lists can be found in the Soldbuch or less often in the Wehrpass. Having the accompanying Solduch or Wehrpass not only provides plenty of details about the combatant and his fate, they also put a face to the man.
    Besides the actual close-combat days listed by dates and locations, the lists usually had rank and surname of the soldier mentioned. Some CCD lists have additional information like dob and man’s first name. Also the unit is sometimes noted or can be identified from the stamp. In other cases the CCD list is void of any identification to the combatant.
    A lone CCD list without an accompanying Soldbuch, Wehrpass or other documents can make it very difficult to find information on a soldier.

    Recently I acquired such a lone CCD list that came with only one other document, a wound badge in black award. From this CCD list I was able to gather the rank, first name, last name and the locations with dates of the 22 close combat engagements the man participated in. The unit was not mentioned on the CCD list and the unit stamps cannot be positively identified.

    Gefreiter Richard Quanz
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    I wanted to find out more about this brave man. Since I had his full name and the last name the rather unusual, I made a data search on the German War Grave registry. The search came up with a few hits. I narrowed the search further down by entering the KIA or MIA after September 14, 1943. This left me with a couple of possibilities. One of them I could eliminate by wrong theatre of war.

    I’m down to one.

    Richard Quanz - born on April 19, 1923 – missing in action since March 01, 1944

    However, since I don’t know the date of birth and no rank was given on the German War Grave site, the Richard Quanz I ‘m looking for could have survived the war and would not be listed.

    A close match but no confirmation of identity.

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      #3
      And this would all I could find out, if not for the wound badge award that came with the close combat day list.

      The WBib award states 5./Gren.Rgt.848 as Gefreiter Richard Quanz's unit in October 1943.

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        Now I know the unit now (5./Gren.Rgt.848) and I assume that the MIA from the German War Grave site may be the same man.

        Trying to confirm this theory I search the Red Cross MIA registry (Vermistenbildliste).

        These lists are indexed not by the names of the men missing in action but by their last unit or Feldpostnummer known.

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          #5
          Bingo!

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            #6
            The twenty year old soldier Richard Quanz fought 22 close combat engagements within 35 days and survived without a scratch.

            Three weeks later on September 30, 1943 he was wounded. We don't know the extend of his injury but we know that he recuperated and was back fighting on the eastern front some time later.

            He was last seen in Maloiski near Tiraspol (modern Moldova) on March 01, 1944.

            One of the millions of soldiers from all nations that are still MIA

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            Last edited by naxos; 07-21-2018, 07:56 PM.

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              #7
              Hello naxos !

              Very impressive research, with a very successful result in the end !
              Congrats, for solving this puzzle, starting with such little info available !

              Best regards,

              Archi

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                #8
                Naxos,
                Nice detective work!
                Jeff

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                  #9
                  Excellent work! Great to see the effort taken by forum members to reveal the human stories behind the militaria.

                  Michael

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                    #10
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                    Interesting story and nicely done research !

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                      #11
                      Excellent work!! I too have become increasingly interested in having a face associated with my documents and groups. This bit of research is wonderful and is fine representation of why these collectibles are so fascinating.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by naxos View Post
                        Now I know the unit now (5./Gren.Rgt.848) and I assume that the MIA from the German War Grave site may be the same man.

                        Trying to confirm this theory I search the Red Cross MIA registry (Vermistenbildliste).

                        These lists are indexed not by the names of the men missing in action but by their last unit or Feldpostnummer known.

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                        it is the most emotional part of collecting these documents; before any military or unit or battle research, give a face and a story to these forgotten (or lost) soldiers

                        congratulations for another great page!
                        ciao Oriano

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                          #13
                          Thank you all for the kind feedback

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                            #14
                            Wow! Congratulations on solving the puzzle!! That's great. I would be thrilled.

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                              #15
                              Always great when you can find this, I remember on a few occasions finding them also in the Vermisstenbildliste, only for their details to be recorded but without photo.


                              /Ian
                              Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                              Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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