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    My "Adjutant" Collection (1) --- Posted for 74 anniv. of Western Invasion Normany !

    Hello Collectors,

    I personally like the position "Adjutant" in the Wehrmacht,
    it plays important roles in each unit
    (function:承上启下 form a connecting link between the preceding and the following)

    and looks very cool when he is standing by the commander and wearing Adjutant Aiguillette. In the documents or soldbuch, sometimes
    it will not show "Adjutant", just "Stabs", so i have to find firm evidences
    to proof he is actually playing Adjutant in the unit.

    I will post 3 threads in the following months for my Adjutant collections:

    (1) Adjutant in II./SS Pz.Gren.Rgt.25, in 12.SS Panzer Division "Hitlerjugend",
    (2) Adjutant in SR.86 and SB. (Brigade) 10, in 10.Panzer Division,
    (3) Adjutant in II./SS Pz.Gren.Rgt.10 Westland, in 5.SS Panzer Division "Wiking",


    hope you will enjoy, and give me your opinions and comments, thanks !

    Chen
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    Last edited by PanzerElite; 06-06-2018, 06:51 AM.

    #2
    June 6, 2018 is the 74th. anniversary of Western Invasion Normandie !
    so i will post a soldbuch of an Adjutant in II./SS Pz.Gren.Rgt.25,
    his name Franz Xaver Pfeffer is mentioned at least twice in Hubert Meyer's book "the history of SS HJ Division", he is probably the only one in the officers corps of SS Hitlerjugend Division who didn't come from LSSAH Division .
    the soldbuch is issued on 1939.7.15, SS-VT Deutschland,
    his rank is from SS-mann to SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer,
    after the western battles, he was promoted to Unterschafuhrer by his unit SS-D (Deutschland), and then sent to SS Schule Braunschwieg, after became officer on 1941.4.20, he went on participating in Russian invasion and got seriously wounded there, after recovery, he was staying in SS Standort Kommandantur Prag for over 1 year, then he was sent to II./SS Pz.Gren.Rgt.25, i can't know when exactly he was roling Adjutant to his commander of II./SS Pz.Gren.Rgt.25, Sturmbannfuhrer Hans Scappini, who is the first death in HJ officer corps on 1944.6.7., at that time my man was staying beside him i think.

    3 fotos of his commander Hans Scappini, credit in https://forum.axishistory.com/
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      #3
      in Hubert Meyer's book "the history of 12.SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend",
      there are 2 Paragraphs about Xaver Pfeffer. Sorry, i don't have English version,
      so i translate for you, i hope i can see the original English version if somebody can provide the pages.

      1, When the counterattack began, the batallion Commander Hans Scappini, Batallion Adjutant Franz Xaver Pfeffer, Batallion Sani.Officer Dr.Sedlacek stayed at the uttermost front of the soldiers of the batallion, the reconnaissance platoon of the batallion, led by SS-Obersturmfuhrer Xaver Pfeffer, St.Contest conquered immediately.

      2, weeks later, i and Hein Schrott, Xaver Pfeffer (Adjutant of 2nd Batallion) Batallion Sani.Officer (Alex Sedlacek) and some of comrades of my company are awarded EK1.
      (written on 1944.6.10)
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        #4
        as i don't like Wehrmacht or SS soldiers who got nothing awards or just KvK2, or BWB in Normandie battle, they are just witnesses of the battle, not the real fighter there,
        so it takes several years for me to find such soldbuch who got nice awards in Normandie battle: EK2, EK1,SWB,CCCiB

        here are his soldbuch.
        my introduction is written in hurry, i hope you can give me amendments.

        his EK2 is for battle on 1944.6.7 ( informtion from Hubert Meyer's book )
        EK2, EK1 signed by Heinz Schrott, the new commander after Scappini's death on 1944.6.7.

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          #6
          more fotos
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            #7
            more page of Close combat days ! signed by Wilhelm Dehne !
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              #8
              later he was in SS Totenkopf, signed by Sturmbannfuhrer
              Hans Eckert. the first signature when isssued the Soldbuch is Kroeger, died in the early of Russian battle.
              over ! hope you like it ! L
              Last edited by PanzerElite; 06-06-2018, 09:18 AM.

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                #9
                Originally posted by PanzerElite View Post
                as i don't like Wehrmacht or SS soldiers who got nothing awards or just KvK2, or BWB in Normandie battle, they are just witnesses of the battle, not the real fighter there,...
                Wow, this has to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant comment's I've read on the forum.

                Please tell us about your combat military service that allows you to judge other's service in combat in this way.

                Do you have any idea what some of these men went through to "only" be awarded a Black Wound Badge? Or do you realize the awarding of medals/badges was not a perfect system? Often soldiers did not receive an award they were entitled to receive due to exigencies of war. Others never received awards due to the politicization of the award process, where CO's favored some soldiers over others in their company.

                John

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                  #10
                  Originally posted by InfanterieSammler View Post
                  Wow, this has to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant comment's I've read on the forum.

                  Please tell us about your combat military service that allows you to judge other's service in combat in this way.

                  Do you have any idea what some of these men went through to "only" be awarded a Black Wound Badge? Or do you realize the awarding of medals/badges was not a perfect system? Often soldiers did not receive an award they were entitled to receive due to exigencies of war. Others never received awards due to the politicization of the award process, where CO's favored some soldiers over others in their company.

                  John

                  Hi, man, do you always have this way to discuss another person?
                  it is my collection choice. not arrogant.

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=888713

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                    #11
                    Excellent Soldbuch Chen, but I cannot agree with your analogy..."the real fighter there". In Normandy having to go through weeks and months of artillery bombardments, bomber runs, strafing by fighters, or shooting at tanks and infantry that made breakthrough's would have also included those who served in combat support roles. Many of them only got a hole in the ground with a headstone.
                    Last edited by Edward; 06-06-2018, 10:43 AM.

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                      #12
                      Originally posted by PanzerElite View Post
                      it is my collection choice. not arrogant.
                      It's not about your collecting choice, it's about how you describe less-decorated soldiers as "just witnesses" or "not real fighters." How do you know what these solidiers witnessed or what fighting they were involved in?

                      Here are two photographs from my collection of SSG Robert Weaver, who landed at Utah beach on this date 74 years ago. He was in combat with the 12th Regiment of the 4th Infantry Division until he was wounded a week later on 13 June. He "only" spent a week in combat, never received a valor award, and "only" received a wound badge (Purple Heart). Do you want to tell me he is "just witness" or not a "real fighter"?

                      Collect what you want. Show better respect for men who seen more combat that you ever have.

                      John
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                        #13
                        Originally posted by PanzerElite View Post
                        Hi, man, do you always have this way to discuss another person?
                        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=888713

                        Where do I discuss a person? I am asking a question about value. I did not perceive the value to be that high. As a collector of Normandy Soldbücher, I normally pay in the $500-$700 range for a SB of this type.



                        John

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                          #14
                          Originally posted by PanzerElite View Post
                          as i don't like Wehrmacht or SS soldiers who got nothing awards or just KvK2, or BWB in Normandie battle, they are just witnesses of the battle, not the real fighter there...

                          I apologize for hijacking your thread. Your statements, IMO, could not be left unaddressed.


                          If you would like to edit your post and revise your statements, I will ask Ian to remove my posts on the matter.


                          John

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                            #15
                            John, I fully agree with you. Disrespecftul and inappropriate comment.

                            Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of soldiers on both sides died miserably on the battlefield without ever been awarded a single medal. That comment is a slap in the face of each of these men.

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