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    A minimum of 20 stamps....

    ...will be entered into your Soldbuch. Enlistment - Medical - Hospital - Equipment -Leave and more included.


    http://www.firebasenam.com/store%20c...20services.htm

    #2
    Yeah....thats all we needed

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      #3
      Hi Robert,

      More worse, and everything can be ordered.

      All you need to change a good Soldbuch or Wehrpaß into a modified and upgraded bad one.

      http://www.intrenches.com/stamps.htm

      Best regards

      Eric-Jan




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        #4
        Copyright: Christopher W. Pittmann?? Isnt he a member here??

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          #5
          When it comes to making money, nothing is sacred.
          Jeff

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            #6
            I just want to hope that this "service" is intended for renactors that want to have a more realistic document

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              #7
              Originally posted by Diaspora View Post
              Copyright: Christopher W. Pittmann?? Isnt he a member here??
              Yes, he is a member.

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                #8
                There are lots of companies and individuals that offer reproductions for reenacting, for movie props, veteran replacements, museum use or for other similar (IMO) legitimate purposes. I don't think that is a surprise to any collector. Paperwork is no different. To a reenactor, having correct paperwork is considered as important for a portrayal as the correct hat or uniform jacket. I happen to know a lot of reenactors who take great pride in the reproduction documents they use to add realism to their impressions. Although in many cases I can appreciate the time and skill that went into the effort, I have never seen anything that would fool any serious collector. The items are not made to deceive. There are in fact many vendors who offer to fill out Soldbücher for reenactors. Knowing how much work goes into these recreations, nobody would pay to have one done if they had to pay by the hour. There is nobody really making money off of any of this reproduction paperwork, people do it for a hobby, like model-building, etc.

                There are collectors who do not believe that any historical object should be reproduced for any purpose and that production of any kind of recreation is tantamount to creating a fake intended to deceive a collector. Although I respect that point of view, I do not agree with it. I do believe that living history museums, for instance, help people learn about the past.

                Of course it is true that there are unscrupulous individuals who upgrade real original documents with forged entries. For those who aim to fool collectors, exact copies of original stamps are a must. Fortunately for them, high-resolution images of original stamps are posted on the Internet here and everywhere else. Some effort with Photoshop (or the equivalent) can easily produce a graphic representation that is identical to the original stamp image. And it is easy to go online and order the stamp from countless rubber stamp manufacturers. Rubber stamps are cheap. I will say, I think the forgers who alter genuine historical documents to defraud collectors are not advertising their work on the internet.

                I would be interested in owning a Wehrpass to a soldier who was transferred from the Heer or Luftwaffe and served as an SS guard but I will never buy one because I know how easy it would be to create one. I enjoy writing with fountain pens, and I have learned period German script so I can understand entries in original documents in my collection. Stamps, as I say, are cheap and easy to make.
                Last edited by CWP; 12-19-2014, 10:45 AM.

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                  #9
                  Here is an example of a recreated Soldbuch to illustrate the type of work that many people are creating for reenactors and as movie props, etc.

                  http://intrenches.com/samplesb.htm

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                    #10
                    That's scary
                    Paper and ink look new so now it's easy to say it's a copy. But what will be the difference from originals in 20-30 years? Just let it get aged and it will be very hard to discern!

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                      #11
                      Original Dienststempel stamps (the round eagle stamps used by military units) were, by regulation, metal. These metal stamps made crisp imprints that often left impressions in the paper. If you can examine an original Wehrpass without a lot of wear you can often still discern the impressions left by the metal stamps. Rubber stamps do not leave a physical trace like this and may not make impressions as crisp as the metal ones. Of course, I am sure metal stamps could also be made, but would require more effort and expense. It would not be worth it for a reenactor- but for a faker looking to sell a forgery for thousands, perhaps...

                      Virtually every vendor that caters to reenactors offers blank Soldbücher. These are made with modern paper and cover stock. The covers, the paper, the method of printing, often even the spelling and graphics do not match the wartime originals. When you hold these copies in your hand it is easy for anyone with any experience with original wartime documents to discern that they are modern copies. They are not made with any attempt to deceive.

                      The real danger is modification to original documents. Collectors must examine every purportedly original entry with a critical eye.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by CWP View Post
                        Original Dienststempel stamps (the round eagle stamps used by military units) were, by regulation, metal. These metal stamps made crisp imprints that often left impressions in the paper. If you can examine an original Wehrpass without a lot of wear you can often still discern the impressions left by the metal stamps. Rubber stamps do not leave a physical trace like this and may not make impressions as crisp as the metal ones. Of course, I am sure metal stamps could also be made, but would require more effort and expense. It would not be worth it for a reenactor- but for a faker looking to sell a forgery for thousands, perhaps...

                        Virtually every vendor that caters to reenactors offers blank Soldbücher. These are made with modern paper and cover stock. The covers, the paper, the method of printing, often even the spelling and graphics do not match the wartime originals. When you hold these copies in your hand it is easy for anyone with any experience with original wartime documents to discern that they are modern copies. They are not made with any attempt to deceive.

                        The real danger is modification to original documents. Collectors must examine every purportedly original entry with a critical eye.

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