A veteran of WWI and a soldier again in 1939
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Civil Courage!
Okay, he was drunk ... but if only more would have had the courage to speak up, perhaps ...Comment
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On October 29, 1939 the drunk Lw-Bau soldier Martin Lang went from table to table in a Bavarian pub calling the Fueher a dumbass, saying that Hitler, Goebbles and the others can kiss his a**. That the Fueher is an idiot and Hitler is the biggest dumbass.
On January 1940, Lang was sentenced by a Luftwaffe court-martial to 3 weeks incarcerationComment
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54 years old and his second war ... maybe he was not all drunk ... very nice and interesting .....Comment
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He is a lucky man only to have got 3 weeks.Comment
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You absolutely right David.Originally posted by David Fettes View Post
I think he was lucky that his case was handled by a military court and not a civilian court - they only charged him with "causing a disturbance".
In civilian court he probably would have been charged with Führer-Beleidigung a possible concentration-camp sentence.Last edited by naxos; 11-22-2014, 02:11 AM.Comment
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Did he go on to serve longer or was he discharged?
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Maybe the judge thougth the same about their leadersOriginally posted by David Fettes View Post
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I wonder the same ... and it will be interesting to find out when I have the pass in hand and can look through it.Originally posted by JUNGCO View PostComment
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Some did.Originally posted by Ironcrown View PostMaybe the judge thougth the same about their leaders
Certain is that German military courts were more tolerant in this kind of (political) misconduct then their civilian, Nazi career, leader pleasing, counterparts.
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He does not show up on the German Grave Search so maybe he survived it all.Comment
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I agree with you : with the soldiers, expecially with the front line soldiers, there was more tolerance compared with civilian....Originally posted by naxos View Post
from the memory of Lt. Gerhard Muhm (29 Pz. Gre. Div. in Italy)....
http://www.larchivio.org/xoom/gerhardmuhm2.htm
....... Of course. I have always been convinced that if we did fight right to the end, it was because we were always fighting for the comrade on our right, by the side of the one or our left, or perhaps for our immediate commander, whom we respected or perhaps because we believed we were fighting for our honour, doing our duty as soldiers up until the very last day. In 1944-45 it was very difficult to persuade the front-line soldiers to fight for Hitler any more, or even for Germany. We even sang satirical songs against Hitler, songs that strengthened our fighting spirit and which nobody objected to, because you do not argue with the front line soldier, the man we called the Front-Soldat............Comment
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Yes, he was lucky. Alot of variables came into effect when running across the military court system...specific crime, particular military judge trying the case, where crime was comitted, and early vs later war punishments. He could have ended up doing a stint at the Torgau military prison.Comment
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