e-stand Battle of the Bulge Soldbuch?

[brooksbz]

I'm sure Ralle did not try and purposefully misrepresent this book, it's also right that it is discussed, especially as the value is based on the Bulge connection and the claim that he was wounded on the 16 Dec.44

To clarify my "big deal" comment was based how I interpreted the above quote in post 12. The buyer should do their own research to back up any claim made by a seller, and lastly the buyer is protected by estand rules. I did not buy the book but through my dealings, I know Ralf is a dealer of integrity. I did not meet to offend or down play anything.

[Eric JB]

Now please feel free to show and proof that these informations given from the www are totally wrong.

Ralf,

Now please feel free to read the replies to your "show and proof" post and see that, you / and / or - the www are totally wrong.

Best regards

Eric-Jan

[Der_Stahlhelm]

from the estand listing......


"....needs further research...."


I don't see any Stasi method used here......

[Floris]

I occassionally started this thread with the question if this man participated in the battle of the bulge and got wounded at the very first day.
I was not asking about the relliabillity of him as a seller and his fair or unfair prices...
That are imo 2 different things.
When time permits I also buy and sell items on the e-stand.
But when I made a mistake and someone is pointing me on the mistake I'll try to do my best to solve it. When I buy an item and the description doesn't fit at all I'am not really happy.

Before posting this thread I've send Ralle an e-mail and told him about this. But instead of an reply I saw that the thread was put on "sold".
Then I thought it was maybe good to ask the question overhere.
A forum is a place to discuss and in this case it was to clearify and help.
Two people (Simon and Eric Jan) already helped with I think good provenance that he didn't particcpated in this battle.
The Lexikon is a great and very helpfull site to me also and sometimes Wikipedia too but especcially Wikipedia can't be called a reliable source.
If I got € 1,- for every mistake on Wikipedia I'am pretty sure I was a millionair.

And btw by calling this "Stasi" methods I think you have shown who you really are.
All the best.

[Tora_Tora_Tora!]

C'mon Mr Ralle,we are all waiting for your reply or you are only able to send people to hell or accuse them to use stasi method when you mispresent a lot?
About two months ago I asked to Mr Ralle to put on hold three cheap WP and one of them came with documents related. After two days of having put on hold I,just for a coincidence,watched again the listing pictures and I saw (photo was not clear and I was sure that all was in order trusting in him description) that the "related" documents were all named to a totally different man.
Well,I gently written him explaining what I have seen and the main reply was almost to send me to hell assuring that he would never sell me anything again.
I like to underline that I bought from this guy many items through a German auction house and also in that occasion he totally ruined me stating lots of liars.
Due I am a person who dislike any bad relationship I preferred to avoid any action almost ignoring the absurdities written......it is clear that I was wrong.
Oh,for the readers,of course I still have on my mailbox all the proofs of what I am stating.

Dear Mr Ralle never forget that here,on the WAF,we are all guests and the fact that you pay a member ship fee doesn't give you the right to feel as one who has always the right but.....if in the kingdom of the blind,the one eyed is king,you have....of course....all the right.

[Panzer Rob]

C'mon Mr Ralf,we are all waiting for your reply or you are only able to send people to hell or accuse them to use stasi method when you mispresent a lot?
About two months ago I asked to Mr Ralf to put on hold three cheap WP and one of them came with documents related. After two days of having put on hold I,just for a coincidence,watched again the listing pictures and I saw (photo was not clear and I was sure that all was in order trusting in him description) that the "related" documents were all named to a totally different man.
Well,I gently written him explaining what I have seen and the main reply was almost to send me to hell assuring that he would never sell me anything again. I like to underline that I bought from this guy many items through a German auction house and also in that occasion he totally ruined me stating lots of liars. Due I am a person who dislike any bad relationship I preferred to avoid any action almost ignoring the absurdities written......it is clear that I was wrong. Oh,for the readers,of course I still have on my mailbox all the proofs of what I am stating.

Dear Mr Ralf never forget that here,on the WAF,we are all guests and the fact that you pay a member ship fee doesn't give you the right to feel as one who has always the right but.....if in the kingdom of the blind,the one eyed is king,you have....of course....all the right.

I too have had very similar, very negative issues dealing with Ralf / Ralle84 and after speaking with several collectors there are others who have similar experiences as well

Looking forward to a reply from him in regards to EJ and Simon's posts.

Rob

[46IR]

I just want to throw this out there if you put a fake dkig eg s&l on estand with the note needs further research but undeer the title as original is that not similar to this you sell as original buyer does more research and its not is this not away to get around returns

[Brian R]

I just want to throw this out there if you put a fake dkig eg s&l on estand with the note needs further research but undeer the title as original is that not similar to this you sell as original buyer does more research and its not is this not away to get around returns

I don't think that scenario fits in here.

[Lionel H.]

To tell you the truth, Guys, I really thing this Thread has too much importance for the related Facts. I sometimes sell on the E-Stand, now I will be anxious that a mistake could be written,and thereafter being presented as a Gangster....
If I had seen this SB before, I would have purchased it because it is Pz.Pio.Btl.209, clearly a LORRAINE-Unit !! During the Fights, Lt Karl Grupp felt, a German in Cross in Bearer (Buried in REILLON, 20km from Home), also Oblt. August SNOEK, who received the KC posthumously.... As I told before, OK, a Mistake was done, but it is a cool SB for a correct Price, and I mean, the Buyer (which seems to be happy) has also to know what he is doing.

To be very honest, I find the current Thread http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...37#post6535537 much more subject to a Debate without Concession.... Presenting an SS-Erk.Marke from a Unit which never existed as a "Battlefield Relic" is much more dangerous and could easier fool some Young Collectors. IMO, I repeat : IN MY OPINION, an obvious fake, and I am feeling quite alone to fight for the Truth, so, all estimated Collectors are welcome to have a Look ! L.

[Luft 76]

I too have had very similar, very negative issues dealing with Ralf / Ralle84 and after speaking with several collectors there are others who have similar experiences as well

Rob

Me too. His method of present the items on E Stand aren't always very honest. Sorry to say that here, but nothing to do with Stasi method.

[Eric JB]

To tell you the truth, Guys, I really thing this Thread has too much importance for the related Facts. I sometimes sell on the E-Stand, now I will be anxious that a mistake could be written,and thereafter being presented as a Gangster....
If I had seen this SB before, I would have purchased it because it is Pz.Pio.Btl.209, clearly a LORRAINE-Unit !! During the Fights, Lt Karl Grupp felt, a German in Cross in Bearer (Buried in REILLON, 20km from Home), also Oblt. August SNOEK, who received the KC posthumously.... As I told before, OK, a Mistake was done, but it is a cool SB for a correct Price, and I mean, the Buyer (which seems to be happy) has also to know what he is doing.

To be very honest, I find the current Thread http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...37#post6535537 much more subject to a Debate without Concession.... Presenting an SS-Erk.Marke from a Unit which never existed as a "Battlefield Relic" is much more dangerous and could easier fool some Young Collectors. IMO, I repeat : IN MY OPINION, an obvious fake, and I am feeling quite alone to fight for the Truth, so, all estimated Collectors are welcome to have a Look ! L.

Lionel,

This thread is not about your sales on the e-stand and not about you "being anxious that a mistake could be written, and thereafter being presented as a Gangster.... "

Ralf asked for :

Now please feel free to show and proof that these informations given from the www are totally wrong.

By the way it would have been nice to inform me that this thread was started.
I can not agree on these Stasi-Methods shown by some members of this Forum

But his only reply on WAF is posting other items for sale on the e-stand.

You are talking about facts, the point is that it is NOT the first time that Ralf describes his sales more interesting than they in reality are, we are NOT talking about a simple mistake.
And often enough an item is sold on the description.
Ralf knows what he is selling - as it is his own collecting field and interest.

As far as I know the sale of that so called Bulge Solduch is cancelled, as the buyer bought it on the description.

So Lionel you are a very lucky guy "If I had seen this SB before, I would have purchased it - cool SB for a correct Price" now you can go for that Soldbuch.

And at the end, the first buyer - for cancelling , Ralf - for selling, and you - for getting a second chance, are happy with that Soldbuch and that is all what matters.

Best regards

Eric-Jan

[Simon O.]

Having contacted both seller and buyer, i'd just like to say that it is all sorted out and that Ralf has acted correctly.

It was as we thought, bought on the strength of the description and when the error was discovered, the sale was cancelled before anything was sent.


Thank you to those who spotted the error in the first place and brought it to everyone's attention.