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    Help understand unit's page Wehrpass South Russia

    Hello everyone,

    I am a medal collector but recently I received this wehrpass as a gift. I am struggling a little bit to understand the last part of the soldier's unit page so I ask for your help. Problems start with the 27-7-42 entry written in a different handwriting:

    Page 12

    27-7-42: Panzer Grenadier Regiment 64 right?
    18-8 to 17-10-42: Genesenden Kompanie Panzer Grenadier Regiment 64?
    18-10-42 to 12-3-43: Genesenden Kompanie VI/16/11 (meaning of those numbers?)

    Page 13

    13-3-43 to 29-10-43: He returned to Panzer Grenadier Regiment 64?
    30-10 to 16-12-43: Can´t understand anything

    Thank you very much in advance for your help,

    Last edited by lm5; 02-02-2014, 12:38 PM.

    #2
    Hola Senor !

    You are quite wrong. Your Guy saw Action from 26.12.40 to 23.5.42. At this Date, look other Pages from yr WP, he was probably WIA. Then, he was handled at the Hospital but "administratively" attached to the list of Units you have thereafter. Look, all the Units have the "E" for Ersatz.... You can also read once "Gen.Kp" (genesenden-Compagny) which was a special company in any "Ersatz Bataillon" for Soldiers recovering of Wounds.... Allright ??
    It seems that he really was in a bad bad, Shape, the last "Unit" you can not read means "H.E.St. 5/VI". It means "Heeres-Entlassung-Stelle", that means he was liberated from active Service.
    I could write Pages about each Units and significance of each Term, but I imagine you just want to understand the Global Meaning of this Page, and hope above Explanations may help. Lionel.

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      #3
      Originally posted by 708.V.G.D. View Post
      Hola Senor !

      You are quite wrong. Your Guy saw Action from 26.12.40 to 23.5.42. At this Date, look other Pages from yr WP, he was probably WIA. Then, he was handled at the Hospital but "administratively" attached to the list of Units you have thereafter. Look, all the Units have the "E" for Ersatz.... You can also read once "Gen.Kp" (genesenden-Compagny) which was a special company in any "Ersatz Bataillon" for Soldiers recovering of Wounds.... Allright ??
      It seems that he really was in a bad bad, Shape, the last "Unit" you can not read means "H.E.St. 5/VI". It means "Heeres-Entlassung-Stelle", that means he was liberated from active Service.
      I could write Pages about each Units and significance of each Term, but I imagine you just want to understand the Global Meaning of this Page, and hope above Explanations may help. Lionel.
      Dear 708.V.G.D.,

      First of all thanks for the quick and kind reply. This is exactly what I wanted, to understand how the unit's page works. The first part was easier, now I see that with this was I was clueless. Your explanation is perfect since he was discharged 16-12-43 as it is also stated in the final pages of the whereas.

      Thanks again!

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        #4
        Hi lm5 and Lionel !

        It seems Lionel provided most of the important information for lm5.
        I would like to add some info on his prior units, and also on the Genesenden-Marsch-Kp., which could be interesting, too.

        This soldier was drafted to Infanterie-Ersatz.-Btl. 474 located at Bromberg at that time.
        http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...rsBat474-R.htm

        After that he was serving in two different Grenzwacht-Regiments in the west :
        http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...nter/GWR16.htm
        http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...enter/GWR6.htm
        These were mainly border security units, with some of the personnel from the local customs services.
        His second unit, the Grenzwacht-Rgt. 6, was moved to the Netherlands in early June 1940 and its main
        task there was to take care of POWs and transfer them to the Reich.


        In autumn 1940 he was attached to several replacement units connected to 16. Pz.Div., from where
        he was finally sent to his frontline unit, Schützen-Rgt. 64 of 16. Pz.Div.
        http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...ter/SR64-R.htm

        With 16. PzDiv. he was in Romania, Bulgaria and took part in Barbarossa. In winter 1941/42 he was
        probably wounded/ ill/ frostbite, and after beeing treated in the hospital (?!) he was sent back to his replacement unit.
        There he he spent two month in the Genesenden-Kp. of Schütz.Ers.Btl. 64, (from mid August - mid October 1942 ),
        then he was transferred to the Gen.Marsch-Kp. VI/16/11 :
        18-10-42 to 12-3-43: Genesenden Kompanie VI/16/11 (meaning of those numbers?)
        => This is the 11th Genesenden company, sent to the front from Wehrkreis VI, for replenishing the 16. Panzer-Division.

        This is a point I found very interesting : The Genesenden-Kp. is a special company in each replacement
        battalion, where those men recovering from wounds / illness, stayed until they were fit again for frontline duty.
        When recovered, they would be transferred to the Marsch-Kp. and sent to the front again.
        The person in question could be transferred to a Genesenden-Marsch-Kp. for two reasons :
        a) as replacement, to replenish some frontline unit
        b) as accompanying staff personnel.

        He stayed in this unit for 5 month, which is relatively long !
        Therefore I would think that it is at least possible, that he really was sent to the front with this Genesenden-Marsch-Kompanie
        at some time in November or December 1942 (?), never arrived at the 16. Pz.Div. and was somehow involved in the struggle
        at the southern wing of the eastern front. Once the situation had stabilized in late February/March 1943, he was
        sent back to his replacement unit.

        There he stayed for a few more month, before he was finally dismissed. It might be interesting to see that
        last page of the Wehrpass, whether there is any reason mentioned.
        (I do not know whether there are other pages in the Wehrpass, which could shed some light on this.)

        I hope that gives some aditional clues to this interesting career.

        Cheers,

        Archi

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