Infantry visor name /unit

[Dennis S]

Hi guys,

Can anyone help me with the unit designation inside this white piped em/NCo visor hat I purchased .? It loos like the first letters are pz I assume for panzer. Also what is the first letter in Walter 's last name I would like o research it a little. I'm having a difficult time with this German script.

Thank you all in advance.

[Dennis S]

Closer shot

[Waffenreich]

Dennis,

The hat belonged to Walter G l ä s s and he was assigned to the 14th Kompanie (Anti-tank) of Infanterie Regiment 36.

The 10th Komp. of two-battalion Infanterie regiments and 14th Komp. of three-battalion Infanterie regiments were the Infanterie Panzer-abwehr (anti-tank) companies. Early in the war the standard gun for these units was the Pak-36 (Panzerabwehrkanone 36). This gun fired a 3.7 cm round and was the primary anti-tank weapon of Army Infantry Regiments until mid-41, when the calbres increased due to the relative ineffectiveness of the "door knocker" as it was known against the heavier armour encountered in Afrika and Russia.

Each Infantry Division was also assigned a Panzer Abwehr Battalion (larger in size than the Infantry Regiment's Pz-Abw Komp. and equipped with heavier weapons). These troops would wear pink piping as their waffenfarbe and their shoulder straps would generally display a gothic "P" and the battalion number (until wartime regulations began to prohibit the display of unit cyphers for security reasons). Because they were organic to the Division the unit number would generally be that of the Division, unless they were a Korps-level unit.

Infanterie Regiment 36 was assigned to the 9th Infanterie Division. Here's a link to some info on them: http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nati...ikorps?id=3266

There is one soldier in the German War Graves Commission's database with his name. I'd have to look closer at the operational history of the unit to see if IR 36 was in the area where this guy is reported as being killed in Mar 42.

Nachname: Gläss
Vorname: Walter
Dienstgrad: Oberschütze
Geburtsdatum: 22.12.1920
Geburtsort: Muldenberg
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 29.03.1942
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Waldstück nördl. Panawo

Please post more pics of the hat for our viewing pleasure

Hope this helped.

vr

Bob

[Dennis S]

Bob, thank you very much for the time you took to give this detailed information.

Here are several other photos I took of the hat.

[Dennis S]

Another

[Waffenreich]

Glad I could help Dennis and that hat displays nicely

I think a nice slip-on or sew-in Infantry EM shoulder strap with chain stitched or embroidered "36" on it would complement the hat nicely. I generally see about some 50 death notices/remembrance cards a day so I'll keep my eyes open for Wally. Needle in a haystack for sure, but I did once find one for a named Luftwaffe pilot tunic I have.

I'll keep in touch if I see a strap as well.

Regards

Bob

[Dennis S]

As you can see the Mice had been nibbling on the sweatband.

[Waffenreich]

Yikes. Little b.stards!

Is that taped-in tag for Earl Wilson the vet who brought it back?? In any case, I would retype the info, gently remove the piece from under thee visor and tuck the new piece of paper behind the sweatband. That piece of scotch tape will eventually f...-up the finish on the underside of the visor so better to get a handle on that now. All a matter of preference of course.

As you can see the Mice had been nibbling on the liner

[Dennis S]

Regimental marked again under the sweatband , I had to be very carefull.

[Dennis S]

Maker marked and dated

[Waffenreich]

I thought it would be marked under there, just didn't want to ask you to look considering the condition of it, but since you did thanks for showing it.

That's what I love about early Heer and Luftwaffe stuff - there's usually markings and name tags tucked all over these things.

I once bought a Luftwaffe Rgt General Goring visor from a family and when I got it home and was cleaning it up I found the guy's linen name tag tucked behind the sweatband secured behind the "v" that forms from the stitching that holds the side lining in.

I researched him and his name was unique enough for me to determine with 100% confidence that he died as an NCO in the Hermann Goring Division near Monte Cassino.

To me a fruitful research job is more satisfying than the hunt to find a piece.

Best regards!

Bob

[Dennis S]

Yikes. Little b.stards!

Is that taped-in tag for Earl Wilson the vet who brought it back?? In any case, I would retype the info, gently remove the piece from under thee visor and tuck the new piece of paper behind the sweatband. That piece of scotch tape will eventually f...-up the finish on the underside of the visor so better to get a handle on that now. All a matter of preference of course.

Not sure if that was the vets name that brought its back, thanks for the advise.

[Dennis S]

I thought it would be marked under there, just didn't want to ask you to look considering the condition of it, but since you did thanks for showing it.

That's what I love about early Heer and Luftwaffe stuff - there's usually markings and name tags tucked all over these things.

I once bought a Luftwaffe Rgt General Goring visor from a family and when I got it home and was cleaning it up I found the guy's linen name tag tucked behind the sweatband secured behind the "v" that forms from the stitching that holds the side lining in.

I researched him and his name was unique enough for me to determine with 100% confidence that he died as an NCO in the Hermann Goring Division near Monte Cassino.



To me a fruitful research job is more satisfying than the hunt to find a piece.

Best regards!

Bob

I have an early Fallshirmjager Regt.1. Marked yellow piped luft visor , legit for sure but it is oddly also stamped Regt. General Goring also.

[Waffenreich]

That sounds like a very interesting hat. Not named I assume?

I have an early Fallshirmjager Regt.1. Marked yellow piped luft visor , legit for sure but it is oddly also stamped Regt. General Goring also.

[Dennis S]

That sounds like a very interesting hat. Not named I assume?

No it's not , but I have a four pocket early Luftwaffe rock that is double stamped fallschirmjager regt. 1 comp. 8 and named and unit marked on a tag sewn in side the pocket.