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    Dog Tag Luftwaffe Felddivision?

    Hi,
    I have just acquired a dog tag with the following inscription:

    Stab L. J. Bt. II/20 with the 20 crossed out and a 320 on top of it.

    Would this tag belong to the Stab of the II. Batallion of the Luftwaffen-Jäger-Regiment 20, later (perhaps) transferred to the Grenadier-Regiment 320?

    Only the Lexikon-der-Wehrmacht says the units of the Jäger-Regiment 20 (L) was incorporated into the Grenadier-Regimenter 399 and 401 of the 170. Infanterie-Division? (Perhaps the Stab was not and went to the Grenadier-Regiment 320?)

    http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...egL/JReg20.htm

    Regards
    Sonnenwende
    Last edited by Sonnenwende; 04-18-2013, 01:19 PM.

    #2
    No one has any comments if this is a legit/possible inscription for a Luftwaffe Felddivison tag? Or if the tag is Luftwaffe at all?

    Regards
    Sonnenwende
    Last edited by Sonnenwende; 04-19-2013, 11:33 AM.

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      #3
      Hello

      Please show a pic of that dogtag !

      The inscript "Stab L. J. Bt. II/20" doesn`t sounds like Luftwaffe. It is more like Landesschützen, or Landwehr.



      Best regards, Fronti

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          #5
          That's definitely Landwehr unit.

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            #6
            Thanks for the input ,
            after doing some further research that seems to be the case I have come to the same conclusion. Luftwaffe Felddivision unit tags seem to have the inscription Lw. for Luftwaffe where as this has an L. for Landwehr.

            It seems (according to Lexikon-der-Wehrmacht) that the IR320 of the 212. ID was raised by Landwehr-Kommandeur München in Wehrkreis VII, which would also support it originally being a Landwehr issued tag.

            However I cannot find any info on a Landwehr (Infantry) Regiment 20 (except in WW1)?

            Any idea what the Bt. II/20 would stand for if not II. Bataillon of the 20. Regiment?, could it be 2. Kompanie of the 20. Bataillon?

            Regards
            Sonnenwende
            Last edited by Sonnenwende; 04-26-2013, 06:12 AM.

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              #7
              Hello

              ... because it isn't a regiment. The Unit on that dogtag was issued by a Bataillon.



              Best regards, Fronti

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                #8
                Thanks a lot,
                I assume the Bt. II/20 means the 2. Kompanie of the Landwehr-Infanterie-Bataillon 20 then(?)

                I cannot find any info on the specific unit, but it could be one of the units mobilized before the Anschluss and the invasion of Czechoslovakia.

                Regards
                Sonnenwende

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                  #9
                  Hello

                  It can't be from 2nd coy, because it is from the staff (Stab) of the Bataillon.

                  II/20 means that there was another Bataillon (I/20). Both Bataillons were "independent" and not combined und a regimental staff.


                  Best regards, Fronti

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                    #10
                    Thanks again for your help - it is much appreciated, I don´t have much knowledge of units prewar organization unfortunately.

                    Just to get it right: If I understand you correctly the 20 stands for Landwehr-Infanterie-Bataillon 20 and there were two independend Bataillons I/20 and II/20?

                    Strange they did not just give them different Bataillon numbers like 20 and 21 then? But I suppose it was because it wasn´t "real" Bataillons but just for training (kind of skeleton units)?

                    Best regards
                    Sonnenwende
                    Last edited by Sonnenwende; 04-27-2013, 03:35 AM.

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                      #11
                      Hello

                      That must be something like that. There were several units with this I/... and II/... numbers. Avtually I havn't any info about these Landwehr I/20 and II/20 Bataillons.

                      I don't think that these are prewar units, because the german army (without navy) got their dogtags with the Mobilmachung in August/September 1939.

                      Best regards, Fronti

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                        #12
                        This is very interesting, perhaps it was a quite shortlived unit, the Lexikon-der-Wehrmacht says about the IR320 (the 20 is crossed out on the tag and there is a 320 stamped on top):

                        Infanterie-Regiment 320

                        Aufgestellt am 26. August 1939 als Regiment der 3. Welle durch den Landwehr-Kommandeur München im WK VII und der 212. Infanterie-Division unterstellt.

                        Regards
                        Sonnenwende

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